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by cb1000rider
Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:28 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Opinions/comments on parking lot guy approching me?
Replies: 48
Views: 2258

Re: Opinions/comments on parking lot guy approching me?

SewTexas wrote: He said he didn't show his gun at all, possibly his holster, if that. Like we said earlier, he could have had his hand on his phone.
I'd take what Joker said seriously. If I thought you had a gun and was irritated, it'd just take a little call to the PD indicating that you threatened me with a gun. Who is the burden of proof on now?
Yes, anyone can lie about anything, but in this case the circumstances would be strongly supportive of a story like that. How would the caller know that the OP had a gun unless the caller saw it?

If you're threatened enough to put your hand on it. You should call. If for no other reason than to cover your own tail. It may have an added benefit of preventing an issue for someone else.
by cb1000rider
Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:36 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Opinions/comments on parking lot guy approching me?
Replies: 48
Views: 2258

Re: Opinions/comments on parking lot guy approching me?

The Annoyed Man wrote:Just a reminder. . . .there is no law specifically against "brandishing" in Texas. There is a law against failure to conceal by a CHL unless in response to a threat of use of force/deadly force, or the actual use of force/deadly force. As fishman said, you felt threatened.
To be the devils advocate, here are some things that might land you in trouble:
1) If you felt threatened enough to expose the fact that you had a weapon, you felt that you were justified in using force. Why didn't you call the PD? Generally, any action that is bad enough to warrant that type of response should be followed up... By the way, it might keep you out of trouble. IMHO Pacing you isn't enough to justify force. Neither is attempting to contact you. Neither is making you nervous. After you've warned him, then perhaps things start to change.

2) If he knew you had a weapon, it can result in a MWG call. That's bad for you. At that point, the LEOs are going to believe the caller, as you do have a firearm. I've decided that if I'm ever facing a MWG call where someone didn't see my firearm, make sure the LEOs have the caller describe your firearm. Silver automatic is probably enough to get the job done 50% of the time, but the other 50% it's going to be crystal clear that no one saw your firearm in plain view... Hard to charge you with anything in that case.

I understand that someone approaching you in a parking lot doesn't make you feel comfortable, but people in urban areas do it all the time - looking for money, trying to sell speakers out of a van, whatever... I have yet to run into hostile intent. It's tough having to figure out intent on their way over and putting a car between you and them until you can get it sorted out is probably a good idea.

I don't think you did anything wrong - Just trying to help keep us all out of trouble.

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