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Soccerdad1995 wrote: I guess if someone really wanted to just use IDPA as a pure training activity, they could shoot with a NFC gun, and incur procedural penalties by starting with fully loaded mags, etc. Just make sure to tell the folks running the event so they don't get so irritated that they kick you out.

FWIW I shoot at Thunder a couple times a month and the last time I shot a gun there that wasn't NFC was....last year sometime?

Soccerdad1995 wrote: Personally, I would love to see IDPA shift more toward "real world" and away from "competition".

The average gunfight is supposed to be 3 rounds in 3 seconds at 3 yards or something like that. It might be more realistic, but it would be pretty boring for competition. IMO it's fine the way it is.

Soccerdad1995 wrote: Some of the process restrictions instill bad habits (starting with downloaded mags, no dropping of an empty mag when you have a round in the chamber, etc).

One could argue that a bad habit would be counting the rounds expended so you could make sure and drop an empty magazine and not incur a penalty. If someone's in a gun fight (which IDPA is supposedly trying to mimic to some extent), then there'd be plenty of other things to concentrate on besides counting rounds.

Downloaded magazines is to make more guns competitive and to force reloading. Otherwise with 18-round maximum in a stage the only way to be competitive would be to shoot a gun with a high-enough capacity where reloading wouldn't be required.