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G26ster wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:06 pm

Redneck_Buddha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:21 pm Yup...the U.S. Jewish community is most certainly NOT monolithic. I saw some Twitter posts out there that said the shooting at Tree of Life was no big deal because they were "conservative" Jews. Sometimes the idiocy of the left knows no bounds.

The Jewish faith has 3 branches, so to speak:

Orthodox, Conservative, Reform. The vast majority of Jews is the U.S. are Conservative.

Sorry G26ster but your info is, unfortunately, not quite accurate. The Reform Movement is the largest segment of US Jews and overwhelmingly liberal in their religious practice and their politics (around 40% of all US Jews). Conservative and Orthodox make up about an equal 40% of the total population, Conservative being about 3/4 of that (3:1 Conservative to Orthodox). Conservative and Orthodox share more traditional values and as you follow the spectrum toward Orthodoxy, the politics becomes more traditionally conservative and Republican as well. Since Trumps election there has been a overall movement of more Jews toward the Republican party, but an overwhelming majority still vote Democratic, a throwback to Roosevelt and WWII. Many Jews remain woefully ignorant of the fact that Roosevelt refused to bomb the train tracks to Auschwitz.

jason812 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:37 pm

Bitter Clinger wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:24 pm

jason812 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:16 pm You would think if there were one block of people whose "leadership" would instill self defense and preservation, it would be the Jewish people.

Perhaps you have not heard of a small country in the Middle East?

Yes and I wish the US government would adopt some of the Israeli ways of doing things.

I was referring to the "leadership" of the Jewish people in this country. Vary different mindsets between here and there.

I know. I have written here before that Jews in the US are NO MORE A MONOLITHIC BLOC than any other religious / ethnic group. In recent years the largest and most liberal stream of Judaism in the US has indeed moved farther to the left, consistent with the Dems in general.

I also reported here that I recently participated in Republican Jewish Fundraisers for both Pete Sessions and Ted Cruz. I also attended a local "Sheloshim" (marking 30 days of mourning) for Ari Fuld (of blessed memory) who was well known in the Texas Jewish community. Ari was a 45 year old married Jewish American father of 4 who lived in Judea Samaria, was a huge supporter of the USA and Israel, was a paratrooper reservist and a judo instructor. He was stabbed in the back by a 17 year old Fakestinian terrorist, and before bleeding out Ari chased the terrorist down and shot him. I noted more than one attendee at that Sheloshim carrying.

So I do not disgree at all with your statement, I just wanted to point out that I always try to never say 'always" and "never" or generally to generalize.

Pittsburgh synagogue shooter tended to by Jewish doctors and nurses, officials say

https://www.foxnews.com/us/pittsburgh-s ... icials-say

spectre wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 1:43 pm

Abraham wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:33 am Israel is to blame according to ...some nutcases?

Israel let Trump move the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem. That's a hate crime against the Fakestinians according to their supporters in the loony left.

Fixed it for you.

jason812 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:16 pm You would think if there were one block of people whose "leadership" would instill self defense and preservation, it would be the Jewish people.

Perhaps you have not heard of a small country in the Middle East?

philip964 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:04 am https://www.yahoo.com/news/pittsburgh-m ... 59200.html

Pittsburg mayor disagrees with Trump on arming soft targets. More gun laws and karma.

Pittsburgh mayor is a hard core Dem.

Abraham wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:33 am Israel is to blame according to ...some nutcases?

I am afraid that it goes far deeper than that simple explanation that we would all prefer:

https://thehill.com/opinion/civil-right ... -our-times

The synagogue in Pittsburgh had three services on-going, over a hundred worshipers on-site and did NOT have any armed security - and so it was a soft target.

The FBI special agent in charge said in a presser that the assailant used an "assault rifle". 4 officers were injured, perhaps not all wounded by gunfire but the first on scene were definitely shot.

FOX news interviewed a Jewish former Obama administration high level State Department official originally from Pittsburg and whose parents still live in Pittsburg and belong to that Synagogue. The interviewee, in his second appearance, was clearly straining not to start spewing partisan talking points relating to specific left wing dogma such as background checks, gun control, and right wing extremists but to his credit he seemed to be able to keep a civil lid on it...at least for today.

We quit a Temple here in Dallas that posted 30.06 (but does have armed off duty DPD officers most of the time , at least for event programming and services) and moved to one where there is only 30.07 and armed security most all the time. I was even challenged entering recently as my magazine carrier was apparently printing.