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by ELB
Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:33 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Man attacks teens in San antonio over MAGA hat
Replies: 121
Views: 35046

Re: Man attacks teens in San antonio over MAGA hat

TreyHouston wrote: Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:48 pm Wow! There IS a judge that follows the law and prosecutes liberals!!! :thumbs2:
Not a judge yet. Prosecutor took to grand jury and they supported his charge. I predict plea agreement for misdemeanor charge, deferred adjudication, and anger management classes.
by ELB
Sun Jul 08, 2018 10:41 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Man attacks teens in San antonio over MAGA hat
Replies: 121
Views: 35046

Re: Man attacks teens in San antonio over MAGA hat

I just saw a mug shot from his arrest. Time in the 24 hours between the soft on the arrest he shaved off his beard. Heh.

https://heavy.com/news/2018/07/kino-jim ... ataburger/
by ELB
Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:51 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Man attacks teens in San antonio over MAGA hat
Replies: 121
Views: 35046

Re: Man attacks teens in San antonio over MAGA hat

Killadocg23 wrote: Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:14 pm
ELB wrote: Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:47 pm
srothstein wrote: Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:47 pm
And while he does have an arrest record that has been posted, I don't know if he has any convictions yet.

I have read elsewhere that the burglary charges were dropped when the victim did not show up in court to testify. Don’t know about the DWI charges.

Victims didn’t show up because they were saying racist stuff to this man. Hence theybdidnt want to press charges either.
1. The burglary charge I refer to is not the theft/robbery of the hat, it is a separate event. As shown earlier in this thread Kino has in the past been charged with burglary. I have read in comments elsewhere that this was burglary of a vehicle and the victim did not show to testify. I haven’t found verification one way or the other.

2. As For the current incident, the allegations that the teens used racist remarks appeared rather conveniently, it seems to me. The News station that first reported on them quickly backtracked on that. I think they are properly relegated to the category of “fake news.”
by ELB
Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:47 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Man attacks teens in San antonio over MAGA hat
Replies: 121
Views: 35046

Re: Man attacks teens in San antonio over MAGA hat

srothstein wrote: Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:47 pm
And while he does have an arrest record that has been posted, I don't know if he has any convictions yet.

I have read elsewhere that the burglary charges were dropped when the victim did not show up in court to testify. Don’t know about the DWI charges.
by ELB
Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:21 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Man attacks teens in San antonio over MAGA hat
Replies: 121
Views: 35046

Re: Man attacks teens in San antonio over MAGA hat

Papa_Tiger wrote: Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:53 am ...

http://apps.bexar.org/cmagsearchlist/Li ... il=1937259
"** RWOB ** = Remanded without bond. No bond possible. "
I think the "RWOB" is just part of the legend explaining acronyms, I don't think that is his actual bail status. Appears he was released early this morning, maybe.

Speaking of acronyms, his "Race" is listed as "B". Black?
by ELB
Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:50 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Man attacks teens in San antonio over MAGA hat
Replies: 121
Views: 35046

Re: Man attacks teens in San antonio over MAGA hat

bblhd672 wrote: Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:49 am
DocV wrote: Thu Jul 05, 2018 11:25 pm Arrested. http://apps.bexar.org/cmagsearchlist/Li ... il=1937259
No assault charge? :banghead:
Perhaps Theft of Person is enough to pick him up on, file more charges later?
The teen's guardian filed a report this morning regarding the assault and [SAPD media services spokesman Carlos] Ortiz says that officers are doing their jobs. "I can guarantee we are actively on it and hopefully by the end of the day we will have the suspect in custody," said Ortiz. "At a minimum, there will be charges filed for assault," he continued.
https://pjmedia.com/trending/san-antoni ... at-attack/
by ELB
Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:37 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Man attacks teens in San antonio over MAGA hat
Replies: 121
Views: 35046

Re: Man attacks teens in San antonio over MAGA hat

Maxwell wrote: Thu Jul 05, 2018 11:58 am
srothstein wrote: Thu Jul 05, 2018 11:24 am The news article I read says that a police report has been filed. It implied that it wasn't filed until after he was identified, which i can see as most teenagers probably would not have thought of it at first.

But it won't be a fine, if true. I see it as one of the easiest felony arrests some SAPD detective will ever get. When you combine an assault with a theft, you get a robbery. The video is pretty good evidence of both elements of the offense. The public has identified the suspect. All the detective has to do now is get the statement from the victim, put together an affidavit for a warrant, and go pick up the suspect. I am sure the DA would then bargain it down to a lower offense, but it is hard to not make it at least a state jail felony for theft from a person.

And while it is legal to shoot to stop a robbery, I would not recommend it for anyone in a case like this.
That was my thought when watching the video. Can't shoot to stop, but if an LTC stepped in to stop it and confronted the adult non-violently, and the subject escalated the situation, I wonder how that would go across in a grand jury. Would the LTC be considered an instigator, or a defender? :confused5
No guarantee that the DA or the GJ would be logical (which is always the case), but if someone stepped up and told the punk to give the kid's hat back, maybe stood in the aisle, and punk escalated to violence, I don't see why "someone", LTC or not, could not defend himself within the law. As srothstein said, there was an assault and a theft. Might not be tactically wise to intervene, but that's a different issue.

Now if the DA or the SAPD does NOT act on this, with all the publicity it's getting, they are saying it is open season on Trump supporters in San Antonio, and it will be time to step up one's defensive strategies.

This is an article that identifies the punk, and I think his case should be tracked closely, including three months down the road when the newscycle has rolled over about 1000 times and his lawyer is trying to get charges dropped or pled down to class Z misdemeanor mopery.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-07- ... g-maga-hat
by ELB
Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:16 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Man attacks teens in San antonio over MAGA hat
Replies: 121
Views: 35046

Re: Man attacks teens in San antonio over MAGA hat

Probably a good thing I was not there.

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