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by thatguyoverthere
Tue Mar 07, 2017 2:56 pm
Forum: 2017 Legislative Wish List
Topic: HB421 Church Volunteer Security
Replies: 27
Views: 21348

Re: HB421

rtschl wrote:
thatguyoverthere wrote:Someone please educate me.

I just looked over 1702 (granted, quickly skimmed over it) and I did not see anything that would prohibit a person acting as an unpaid volunteer security person for a church. All I saw was references to being a paid employee in that position.

Obviously I'm missing something. Someone please tell me what specific paragraph(s) in the code currently prohibits a church member (or members) from simply walking around inside and/or outside a church just watching for trouble?
DPS Private Security Bureau (PSB) gave an opinion in 2007 as such: https://www.dps.texas.gov/rsd/psb/Laws/psb_opin_sum.htm and has also been discussed here on the forum many times - one such is here: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=64221

According to PSB: A volunteer security patrol made up of church members would generally require licensing under the provisions of Section 1702.108 or 1702.222, regardless of whether any compensation is received as a result of the activities. The only exception to licensing provided by the legislature for nonprofit and civic organizations is found in Section 1702.327, which applies specifically to nonprofit and civic organizations that employ peace officers under certain circumstances and would not be applicable here.
Ok, thank you, Ron. I was unaware of the background because I was previously not in a situation to have a need to know about any of this, whereas I am more so now. Thanks for catching me up.

We need this bill!
by thatguyoverthere
Tue Mar 07, 2017 2:33 pm
Forum: 2017 Legislative Wish List
Topic: HB421 Church Volunteer Security
Replies: 27
Views: 21348

Re: HB421

Someone please educate me.

I just looked over 1702 (granted, quickly skimmed over it) and I did not see anything that would prohibit a person acting as an unpaid volunteer security person for a church. All I saw was references to being a paid employee in that position.

Obviously I'm missing something. Someone please tell me what specific paragraph(s) in the code currently prohibits a church member (or members) from simply walking around inside and/or outside a church just watching for trouble?

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