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by jb2012
Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:18 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Trump: Banning Suppressors?
Replies: 115
Views: 2069865

Re: Trump: Banning Suppressors?

bbhack wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:54 am
jb2012 wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:42 am Trump’s admin just released a brief to the supreme court on it’s 2A views. To sum it up very briefly they defined silencers or suppressors as “dangerous and unusual weapons.” A suppressor/silencer is neither a weapon, nor dangerous and/or unusual.

Talk about a 180 flip on views when compared to running for election.
Link?
Don’t have a link, but it’s on the forearm policy coalition instagram.
by jb2012
Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:16 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Trump: Banning Suppressors?
Replies: 115
Views: 2069865

Re: Trump: Banning Suppressors?

bblhd672 wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:09 pm
G.A. Heath wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:59 pm While I do not agree with the Trump administration I do see what I believe is their logic:
The truth of the matter is that Silencers, like machine guns, are relatively unusual in regards to the general public due to the NFA. Since they are unusual they do not qualify for protection under Heller as it currently stands.

Now for my thoughts:
As for regulating them out of existence, like they did with bump stocks, it might become a bit more difficult. Consider that the same law that makes them so unusual regulates them so strictly that it will likely protect them from regulatory fiat. As a result it would likely require an act of congress and the signature of the president to eliminate them.

The NRA and NSSF have invested in advancing 'silencer rights' so they have a vested interest in protecting the progress they made and any future progress they hope to make. While we are here talking, chatting, and demanding the NRA make some public statement I suspect they are busy working to educate the president, his staff, and everyone who will listen in congress about why suppressors need to be protected. While I suspect they are doing that other groups are out there going King Kong thumping their chests and shouting "Trump Bad, Suppressor Good. Frum Mah cold ded hans." and sending out chain emails saying "Trump is gonna ban suppressors!!! Donate money to us now to stop him. Don't let Trump take away the suppressors because only we can stop it."

There is a reason the anti gunners, socialists, liberals, and so on (I know I repeated myself) constantly bash the NRA while they ignore nearly everyone else and it's probably because they are the most effective and don't telegraph their intentions in the media.
Lol...your description of the fund raising email sounds exactly like the NRA’s constant alarmist fund raising mail and email the organization sends out.

As you said, there’s only one reason suppressors are considered “unusual” in the United States, the 1934 NFA. Which was supported by the NRA.
If we are going to say they are unusual, then they are unusual due to unconstitutional laws I.E. nfa.
by jb2012
Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:42 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Trump: Banning Suppressors?
Replies: 115
Views: 2069865

Re: Trump: Banning Suppressors?

Trump’s admin just released a brief to the supreme court on it’s 2A views. To sum it up very briefly they defined silencers or suppressors as “dangerous and unusual weapons.” A suppressor/silencer is neither a weapon, nor dangerous and/or unusual.

Talk about a 180 flip on views when compared to running for election.

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