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by TexasTornado
Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:34 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Three professors sue UT to keep guns out of their classrooms
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Re: Three professors sue UT to keep guns out of their classrooms

Jusme wrote:
bblhd672 wrote:
Papa_Tiger wrote:More fodder for the lawsuit:

http://highered.blog.statesman.com/2016 ... d-for-him/

http://www.mystatesman.com/news/news/lo ... m-referral

I wonder who it was who placed the casings? Someone for campus carry or someone opposed trying to fan the flames of dissent?
My bet would be on the "honorable" opposition. Seems very suspicious that one professor found two of the casings. On a side note what does a "rhetoric professor" teach?

As far as the liberal activist and the singer/songwriter - I'm glad they cancelled. The less liberals on campus indoctrinating instead of educating the better.


:iagree:

One "Rhetoric" professor finds 2 shell casings? She must really have an eye for those things! :confused5

So what...she found casings. That means absolutely nothing. Maybe someone had them to make jewelry or some mixed media art project...just saying.
by TexasTornado
Fri Sep 16, 2016 1:08 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Three professors sue UT to keep guns out of their classrooms
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Re: Three professors sue UT to keep guns out of their classrooms

I've searched the Google high and low... only place I've found the documents you must pay for a subscription :banghead:

I can tell you though that it was filed on 9/12. Document 64 & 65 both appear to be motions to dismiss.
by TexasTornado
Tue Sep 06, 2016 5:44 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Three professors sue UT to keep guns out of their classrooms
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Re: Three professors sue UT to keep guns out of their classrooms

XinTX wrote:And at the time of the adoption of 2A, the term "well regulated" didn't mean "ruled by a panel of bureaucrats in the capitol", it meant well drilled and trained. A well regulated militia was a group of townsfolk who could assemble and forcibly resist an aggressor, whether it be roving marauders or those acting under the color of authority.
This is part of the professors arguments. Because we are not law enforcement or military they do not consider students "well trained." We also do not drill together so they don't think we could possibly be a militia; instead, they see us as wannabe vigilantes who pose a threat to their personal safety.

As far as I'm concerned if they really want to push those buttons we can form a student organization and apply for funding for our ammo. :txflag:
by TexasTornado
Mon Sep 05, 2016 8:36 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Three professors sue UT to keep guns out of their classrooms
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Re: Three professors sue UT to keep guns out of their classrooms

v7a wrote:Case update:

Because the Plaintiffs amended their complaint, the Defendants have withdrawn their previously filed Motions to Dismiss and will file new Motions to Dismiss by September 12th.

Thank you for the continued updates on the case. :tiphat:
by TexasTornado
Tue Aug 30, 2016 5:46 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Three professors sue UT to keep guns out of their classrooms
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Re: Three professors sue UT to keep guns out of their classrooms

dlh wrote:A few thoughts on the professors' response:

1. They are desperately trying to maintain a frivolous lawsuit that should never have been filed to begin with;

2. They admit to a "fresh take" on their second amendment analysis. LOL....Judges and lawyers know what that means. "rlol"

3. It is alarming that they want the right to require conceal-carry students to identify themselves to their professors. That is an obvious attempt to chill, intimidate, and coerce students into NOT carrying---think grades. Not all students who attend the University of Texas major in basket-weaving. Many go on to professional schools or jobs after undergraduate study where grades are a significant factor in the selection process. Pompous professors with a bully-pulpit have enough power as it is over a student's grades---now they want to expand that power by learning who is carrying and not carrying.

We can hope Judge Yeakel sees through all the rhetoric and grants the Motion to Dismiss.
:iagree:
by TexasTornado
Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:00 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Three professors sue UT to keep guns out of their classrooms
Replies: 288
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Re: Three professors sue UT to keep guns out of their classrooms

DocV wrote:The second amendment argument about "well regulated" meaning trained was interesting.
. The consequence is that, in Texas, the carrying of handguns is not “well-regulated” within the meaning of the Second Amendment because there has not been the imposition of proper discipline and training.
I would argue that the required training for the LTC is exactly the " imposition of proper discipline and training"
The guy who mentioned the Israeli soldier saying our course was a joke was interesting considering how many of our police officers and military personnel have stated that their training not to carry with a round in the chamber is dangerous and foolish.
by TexasTornado
Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:34 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Three professors sue UT to keep guns out of their classrooms
Replies: 288
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Re: Three professors sue UT to keep guns out of their classrooms

I don't understand the 1st Amendment claim. The 1st Amendment protects the freedom to speak without criminal penatly. It doesn't guarantee you the courage to speak nor does it promise a willing or accepting audience. All it does guarantee you is freedom from persecution of law. My concealed carry doesn't prevent a professor or anyone else from speaking up, their cowardice dose.
by TexasTornado
Fri Aug 26, 2016 9:46 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Three professors sue UT to keep guns out of their classrooms
Replies: 288
Views: 61312

Re: Three professors sue UT to keep guns out of their classrooms

TreyHouston wrote:I feel like it is going to be a long time until any new post on this.. injunction denied= case on back burner....

AG should be going back to focusing on 30.06 and 30.07 complaints, I'm sure he is thinking the same :hurry:
He's got a complaint about teachers offices on his desk as well.
by TexasTornado
Wed Aug 24, 2016 12:51 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Three professors sue UT to keep guns out of their classrooms
Replies: 288
Views: 61312

Re: Three professors sue UT to keep guns out of their classrooms

TXBO wrote:I'm generally for less law but I hope I don't have to live in a society that observes no obscenity laws. Where will it end?
It would end with people observing their individual freedoms and living their lives based on their own morals and religion, unbothered by overly sensitive politically correct insistence on conformity to another individuals personal comfort zone.
by TexasTornado
Wed Aug 24, 2016 11:31 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Three professors sue UT to keep guns out of their classrooms
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Re: Three professors sue UT to keep guns out of their classrooms

Jusme wrote:I don't think these have been amended or repealed. I think that was the reason for the "protest" in the first place because according to the Texas Penal Code, it is illegal to display these items in public, but handguns are now legal.
No one will be charged or arrested, especially in the liberal bastion that is Austin.
Nor should they be....maybe a generational difference. I think "these items" (seriously can we not be adults and just say it?) should be a much more open discussion. I mean a 12 year old can buy condoms but one must be 18 to experiment privately...and we wonder why teen pregnancy rates are what they are...but I digress..

I don't think many college students are going to be offended and make a complaint with the police due to the display. More likely they will be curious or amused or both.
by TexasTornado
Tue Aug 23, 2016 1:38 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Three professors sue UT to keep guns out of their classrooms
Replies: 288
Views: 61312

Re: Three professors sue UT to keep guns out of their classrooms

nimravus01 wrote:On a related note, (but one that I feel doesn't deserve it's own thread,) the group students against cc, are staging a protest tomorrow at UT Austin. At which, they will be displaying a certain type of lewd object that I'm sure can't be mentioned on this forum. In their minds, openly carrying these objects will somehow demonstrate the "absurdity" [their word] of allowing concealed guns carried to class by LTC holders.
As far as I'm concerned they can take their concept and conceal them up their you know where.
by TexasTornado
Fri Aug 19, 2016 2:44 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Three professors sue UT to keep guns out of their classrooms
Replies: 288
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v7a wrote:UT Austin classes start on Wednesday, August 24th.
Odd that they start on a different day than us. Same school system.
by TexasTornado
Fri Aug 19, 2016 1:41 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Three professors sue UT to keep guns out of their classrooms
Replies: 288
Views: 61312

Re: Three professors sue UT to keep guns out of their classrooms

Well it is almost 3:00 on Friday, classes start Monday, and the Google is oddly lacking of any updates. Oh how our dearest professors must be sweating.
by TexasTornado
Fri Aug 12, 2016 2:02 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Three professors sue UT to keep guns out of their classrooms
Replies: 288
Views: 61312

Re: Three professors sue UT to keep guns out of their classrooms

I keep refreshing Google hoping to see "UT Professors denied injunction in campus carry case"

No luck so far.

*insert tumbleweed here*
by TexasTornado
Fri Aug 12, 2016 10:16 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Three professors sue UT to keep guns out of their classrooms
Replies: 288
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Re: Three professors sue UT to keep guns out of their classrooms

ELB wrote:
Papa_Tiger wrote:
ELB wrote:I thought the rules promulgated by the President (as modified by the Regents) had the force of law once adopted?
Only if provided notice via 30.06:
TPC 46.035 wrote:(a-2) Notwithstanding Subsection (a) or Section 46.03(a), a license holder commits an offense if the license holder carries a handgun on the campus of a private or independent institution of higher education in this state that has established rules, regulations, or other provisions prohibiting license holders from carrying handguns pursuant to Section 411.2031(e), Government Code, or on the grounds or building on which an activity sponsored by such an institution is being conducted, or in a passenger transportation vehicle of such an institution, regardless of whether the handgun is concealed, provided the institution gives effective notice under Section 30.06.
The easiest method to ensure that there is no question of the location being off limits is the posting of a 30.06 sign at each off limits location.
Ah. Saying the notice must be given is a lot different than "it's not even illegal to bring your weapon into areas of campus restricted by policy." I'll will bet that every student and employee will sooner or later be required to sign a statement containing language that meets the statute. They'll post signs as well, but the lack of one will not legally assist anyone who has signed a statement, just non-students/employees.
Restricted by policy is different than restricted by signage.

I'm curious about private institutions. Won't they have to post a 30.06 on every building?

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