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Jusme wrote:Their agenda, only allows for their subjects to rely on the government for protection. They will even go against feminism, which is supposed to empower women, and try to tell them that they are too weak, incompetent, and otherwise unable to defend themselves, against rapists, because otherwise they will have to admit that firearms are the ultimate equalizer.
They have no statistics to back up their claims, that women will have a gun turned on them, if she tries to use it for self defense, but they endoctrinate them with the fear. They won't even listen to the proof, of women using a gun to either save herself from rape, or even death. Even though they claim, to be the group most responsible for women's rights, they drop all pretense when it comes to self defense.
This is the same group that advised women to urinate on themselves to prevent rape.



If any of them have ever seen the aftermath of a sexual assault, or been victimized themselves, their outlook would change.

Never mind the fact that mindful urination is on an opposing neurological pattern to flight, fight, and freeze responses which would make that nearly impossible for someone to do.....

AndyC wrote:

TexasTornado wrote:

parabelum wrote:

AndyC wrote:

TexasTornado wrote:Reverend Allen Brockway "solemnly advises women that their Christian duty is to submit to rape rather than do anything that might imperil a rapist's life. Rhetorically posing the question as 'Is the Robber My Brother?'"

"Rev. Brockway seems to concede that a woman may shoot a rapist if she knows for a certainty that he will kill her.

Wonder if the good Rev would feel the same way if HE were the one about to be brutally raped....

Good point. What a deranged fool.

*biting my tongue really really hard on this one*

Why?

Because what I'd really like to say about the good Rev. and those of like mind isn't exactly forum appropriate.

parabelum wrote:

AndyC wrote:

TexasTornado wrote:Reverend Allen Brockway "solemnly advises women that their Christian duty is to submit to rape rather than do anything that might imperil a rapist's life. Rhetorically posing the question as 'Is the Robber My Brother?'"

"Rev. Brockway seems to concede that a woman may shoot a rapist if she knows for a certainty that he will kill her.

Wonder if the good Rev would feel the same way if HE were the one about to be brutally raped....

Good point. What a deranged fool.

*biting my tongue really really hard on this one*

parabelum wrote:As a husband and father with daughters, it makes me fume to consider that these maggots live and breathe the same air as we do.

But then I remember that God is in control. That, and Mr. Gaston's invention that rides with us everywhere.

The book itself is written from a very neutral perspective but this section made me want to hurl it across the room. I was so frustrated. Especially from my perspective as a Psychology major and the rates of PTSD associated with rape victims. These people are not just suggesting that women be victimized once but for many of them over and over again for the rest of their lives. It's completely incogitable.

Reading Armed by Gary Kleck for school and thought I'd share a few statements courtesy of our anti friends that suggest, imply, and outright decree that women should not protect themselves from rape and even murder...

"...feminist icon Betty Friedan to the trend of women buying firearms for defense against rape and murder. Friedan denounces this trend as a 'horrifying, obscene, perversion of feminism,' asserting 'that lethal violence even in self-defense only engenders more violence and that gun control should override any personal need for safety.'"

Reverend Allen Brockway "solemnly advises women that their Christian duty is to submit to rape rather than do anything that might imperil a rapist's life. Rhetorically posing the question as 'Is the Robber My Brother?'"

"Rev. Brockway seems to concede that a woman may shoot a rapist if she knows for a certainty that he will kill her. But another NCBH affiliate, the Presbyterian Church (USA), disagrees. Its official position is that handguns should be banned because a victim may not take an attacker's life under any circumstance, even if she knows he will kill her after the rape."



There you have it folks, all of that within 4 pages. And they say we're the crazy ones?