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by Soccerdad1995
Tue May 08, 2018 9:23 pm
Forum: Holsters & Accessories
Topic: Medical accessories
Replies: 30
Views: 5177

Re: Medical accessories

It seems like the consensus is that you would be in a better position legally if you just let the BG bleed out instead of actively trying to save his life. I guess it might just come down to other non-legal considerations in that case (based on your personal ethics, and situational issues as to whether there is still a perceived threat, etc). This seems similar to the analysis of whether to get involved in the defense of others. Legally safer to do nothing in most cases, but a person's ethics may lead them to a different answer.
by Soccerdad1995
Wed May 02, 2018 3:19 pm
Forum: Holsters & Accessories
Topic: Medical accessories
Replies: 30
Views: 5177

Re: Medical accessories

Abraham wrote:O.K. you had to defend your life by shooting a criminal attacker, then you rendered medical aid to the criminal attacker...then he dies.

Could this genuine attempt to help backfire?

As in his family claiming their loved one would have survived if YOU hadn't killed him with your clumsy medical aid or possibly deliberate attempt to finish him off.

Seems like it could.

I would CALL for medical help, but act like I know what I'm doing as a Paramedic or EMT?

That's a tough call...for me anyway.
Wouldn't this same legal argument also be true if you came upon a car crash and tried, but failed, to save the victim(s). Good Samaritan laws are specifically intended to protect the well meaning person in these cases, even if that well meaning person actually does more harm than good.

Obviously, the claim of trying to deliberately "finish him off" would only apply in a shooting situation, not a car crash. But then your attorney could point out that you still had bullets in your gun and could have easily "finished him off" much simpler if that was your intent. I'm assuming here that you didn't empty your gun and still have a live BG on your hands. That would be a bit unlikely unless you are using a .22 or you are a really bad shot.
by Soccerdad1995
Wed May 02, 2018 9:13 am
Forum: Holsters & Accessories
Topic: Medical accessories
Replies: 30
Views: 5177

Re: Medical accessories

Rob72 wrote:
Odinvalknir wrote:
2. Do you think it is logical to proceed to give medical first aid to someone whom you have just use your weapon against?
The moment you touch the person whom you have shot, your legal position changes. It will be your burden to prove that their demise was not the result of your malfeasance or incompetence. The DA might take a pass on the question, a civil attorney, regardless of the justifiability of the shoot, has grounds to bring a suit because of the malpractice/malfeasance question. Render aid = call 911.

I have a small personal pack, and a more complete kit in the vehicle.
Do we have a good samaritan law in Texas protects us from liability if we are attempting to render aid to those in need (crash victims, etc)? If we do that would seem to also cover this situation. If we don't, then that would probably impact my decision on rendering aid in all situations, to be honest.
by Soccerdad1995
Tue May 01, 2018 6:40 pm
Forum: Holsters & Accessories
Topic: Medical accessories
Replies: 30
Views: 5177

Re: Medical accessories

First off, I would render aid after ensuring that the threat was fully neutralized, meaning none of the BG's friends still lurking around, no chance of the injured BG grabbing my gun, preferably having someone else who could hold my gun and cover me, etc.

I recently stocked up with some Quikclot sponges, and pressure bandages (not Israeli bandages but another type recommended by someone on this forum). These went into my home first aid kit as well as the kit that I keep in my range bag. I would do what I possibly could do stabilize the BG and stop the bleeding until medics arrived. Just because I was forced to shoot the guy does not mean that I want him (or her) to die.

That said, my EDC is a .45 most days, and my go to HD weapon is either a 12 gauge or a 5.56mm, so my life saving efforts could be in vain, unfortunately.

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