Yeah, can't say I disagreejohncanfield wrote: However I really like having a bunch of Joules in my holster .
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- Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:38 pm
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- Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:04 pm
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Yep - sufficient penetration, too.
- Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:01 pm
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Yep - which is why it's not about energy alone but how that energy is applied to the tissues via the projectile.
- Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:40 pm
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Absolutely - but my example is to illustrate that it doesn't require a lot of kinetic energy to do a lot of damage.
- Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:46 pm
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I'd sure hate to take a broadhead through my chest-cavity - eish! I have no idea what the volume of the permanent cavity would be, but I'd bet it's spectacular.
- Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:11 pm
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Re: Attempted robbery at Dixie Gun and Pawn: 1911 saves the day!
Well, knockdown power doesn't exist but for grins I calculated kinetic energies for these calibers, rounded up to 3 decimal places for easier reading:johncanfield wrote:I don't want to start a caliber war but I wonder how my EDC Sig P239 in .357 Sig compares to a .45 round in knockdown power? I do own a 1911 and it's one of my favorite shooters, dear wife enjoys it as well
230gr .45acp @ 900 fps:
230gr = 0.0149037 kg
900 fps = 274.32 m/sec
Ek = 560.763 Joules
115gr 9mm @ 1200 fps:
115gr = 0.00745187 kg
1200 fps = 365.76 m/sec
Ek = 498.457 Joules
125gr .357 Sig @ 1500 fps:
125gr = 0.00809986 kg
1500 fps = 457.2 m/sec
Ek = 846.564 Joules
Very impressive, huh? Not so fast. Let's take this object:
500gr = 0.0323995 kg
220fps = 67.056 m/sec
Ek = 72.842 Joules
Pretty weak, huh? Well... it's a 500gr broadhead arrow @ 220 fps.
As I've always said - ain't about the energy per se - it's how that energy is used to cause physical damage.
- Sun Jan 22, 2017 3:23 pm
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I wouldn't bet against you in that analysis.jmra wrote:So, my very unscientific conclusion is that the guys you encountered were much less likely to be shot with a .45 than the other calibers listed. Of course I could be completely and totally wrong.
- Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:15 am
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Stick around - it happens from time to timedlh wrote:Uh-oh. I feel it coming on---a lengthy discussion by wannabe-physicists on the subjects of ballistics and kinetic energy.
- Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:14 pm
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When applied to handguns (and rifles and shotguns), it's untrue. When the day comes that we can launch a 5-ton wrecking-ball into someone's chest from the pistol we carry, I'll concede the point
- Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:24 pm
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There's no such thing.
- Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:36 am
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Placement and sufficient penetration, yep
- Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:28 pm
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Charles L. Cotton wrote:I'm going to pray that God will forgive you guys for this. He probably won't, but I'm going to try anyway.Skiprr wrote:And especially if he was shooting a 130 grain bullet with a charge that just barely made a 125 power factor.ELB wrote:Man, are there going to be a lot of sad puppies when it turns out the shop owner was running a .38 Super from his shooting match days....
Chas.
- Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:07 pm
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- Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:01 pm
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Re: Attempted robbery at Dixie Gun and Pawn: 1911 saves the day!
Boom - splat.
As for the smoke - my guess is simply residue on the camera's lens; it's not moving.
As for the smoke - my guess is simply residue on the camera's lens; it's not moving.