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by AndyC
Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:01 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: BREAKING: P320 Recall Issued By Dallas Police | Prohibited From Duty Till Repaired
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Re: BREAKING: P320 Recall Issued By Dallas Police | Prohibited From Duty Till Repaired

warnmar10 wrote:
AndyC wrote:Thank you - I have no idea why pictures I post suddenly stop working after a little while.
In this example, picpaste.com really doesn't want anyone to link to images stored on their servers. I found a workaround.
They're a picture-hosting company! What else are we supposed to with their service? :lol:
by AndyC
Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:33 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: BREAKING: P320 Recall Issued By Dallas Police | Prohibited From Duty Till Repaired
Replies: 95
Views: 10058

Re: BREAKING: P320 Recall Issued By Dallas Police | Prohibited From Duty Till Repaired

warnmar10 wrote:
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Thank you - I have no idea why pictures I post suddenly stop working after a little while.
by AndyC
Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:20 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: BREAKING: P320 Recall Issued By Dallas Police | Prohibited From Duty Till Repaired
Replies: 95
Views: 10058

Re: BREAKING: P320 Recall Issued By Dallas Police | Prohibited From Duty Till Repaired

Comments on this issue from Bruce Gray of Grayguns on the Sig Talk forums - post is #80 in the linked thread.

http://sigtalk.com/p250-p320-p320-x-5-m ... ost2779081

Reality and facts matter.Full disclosure: Grayguns has developed patent-pending fire control parts for the P320, to enhance these actions for competition and elite users while maintaining full mechanical safety values. Some of this work was done in cooperation with SIG SAUER, and much independently.

I can state with assurance that I may be considered a SME on this platform.

I speak only for myself here:

We have dropped, thrown and banged on P320's for three years, working on our long-term and very in-depth R&D project. Some of our attempts well exceeded accepted specifications for such drop and jar tests. I include throwing a P320 against our shop wall in that category.

I've never experienced an instance in which an example with intact striker lock and reasonable sear and springing values would fire when dropped, much less a proper factory-spec gun.

I have quietly searched for and looked into online reports of any claimed malfunctions or safety issues, including drop-safety failures.

In three years, have yet to verify a single proven instance in which a proper, factory-spec P320 has fired when dropped.

Individual pistols and parts can break, of course. Were that to happen, SIG SAUER will correct it and revise any component which may benefit from it, as has already been the case with the extractor, for example. This is absolutely to be expected from the world's premier gunmaker.

But that's not the issue. Because there isn't one, in my informed opinion.

However, every bit of my 43 years of gunsmithing and design experience, and my special knowledge of this platform, have convinced me beyond any reasonable doubt that the P320 has no inherent flaw or fault whatsoever in it's safety systems or fire control mechanism.

I've read the memo, followed discussions, communicated with some of the personalities involved and chatted online with one of the authors of a recent blog on the DPD's decision.

I am here to tell you that there is nothing there to justify pulling the P320 from duty.

Nothing at all, as far as I am able to see. And believe me, I have skin in the game, and I am looking.

I fully expect this decision to be rescinded shortly once the light of day and sensibility are brought to bear. What SIG might due in response to the rumourmongering which passes as online journalism these days is not for me to speculate upon.

In fact, speculating about these things at all seems bad form. For my part, I can and will back my statements.

-Bruce

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