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thetexan wrote:

twomillenium wrote:

thetexan wrote:Target has the same sign.

What the sign does signify is that the proprietor has so little regard for the law that they can not even take the time to find out what the proper signage is necessary to properly convey their message to the public. If one is lawfully carrying then that sign means nothing. If they are illegally carrying, then that sign means nothing.

tex

Actually that sign is required by the TABC to be posted for all alcohol retailers that sell for off-premise consumption. That is according to the TABC website. So it has nothing to do with the regard of the proprietor at that location.

I believe that sign is not correct, certainly not current. But maybe it can still be used. That is a good research project. I'll get back to you on that.

And maybe the owner posted it or maybe the TABC posted it. If the owner posted it AND it is out of date then the owner needs to do his homework. If it is completely out of the owner's hands....

then I'd agree with you.

tex

TABC does not post signs. They require the business to post one of two signs. They have to post either BLUE 'Unlicensed possession' sign meaning they sell alcohol for off-premise consumption, OR they make less that 51% of their revenue from the sale for on-premise consumption, or a RED 51% sign meaning they make more than 51% from on-premise consumption sales. The BLUE sign does not prohibit an LTC from carrying, hence the wording 'Unlicensed possession'. The RED sign is off-limits for LTC's by law.

mojo84 wrote:One looks like it is a medical facility in the HEB area of the metroplex and the other appears to be a distribution facility. Neither of which are HEB grocery stores I would be expected to go to.

Please let me know if you find an actual HEB grocery store with a 30.06 sign. I am very interested.

Didn't notice the one was Texas Health Hurst-Euless-Beford which came up with the HEB search.

With the lack of entries in the database, I would suspicion if there is a store location then it might just be the local manager's decision and not a corporate directive.

mojo84 wrote:

Take Down Sicko wrote:The HEB near me has 30.06 and 30/07 signs. I sent them an email stating my disapproval and that i wouldnt be spending my money there. Never got a reply. That was a year ago.

I've been to a lot of HEB's and have never seen a 30.06 sign. At which one have you seen one?

There are two locations posted at www.texas3006.com https://www.texas3006.com/view.php?post ... 30.06+Sign

They were reported back before open carry and 30.07 signs were around.

ScottDLS wrote:

Keith B wrote:Many people seem to think these signs are contradictory, but they are not. Unlicensed handgun carry in a location that sells alcohol in any form is carries a higher penalty than many other locations. So, it is just to be a reminder to those not licensed that it is more serious for them and to those licensed that it is not illegal.

The sign is not technically correct if it is suggesting that it is illegal (i.e. a crime) to carry a weapon other than a handgun or only to be able to carry if you are licensed under GC 411. A LEO on or off duty can carry. The owner may carry. Employees may carry if allowed by the owner. Non LTCs may carry rifles, etc. The store can lose their ABC license for knowingly allowing rifle carry, but it's not a crime.

Actually, I was talking about the regular 'Unlicensed possession' TABC sign.

Employees that don't have an LTC cannot carry a handgun unless they are in control of the property. The owner can't give permission to carry. Of course LEO's can carry, because they are licensed by TCOLE to carry.

I agree the sign in the OP's post is not technically accurate.

Many people seem to think these signs are contradictory, but they are not. Unlicensed handgun carry in a location that sells alcohol in any form is carries a higher penalty than many other locations. So, it is just to be a reminder to those not licensed that it is more serious for them and to those licensed that it is not illegal.