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twomillenium wrote:WOW! The DPS is starting to show a kind of deterioration of there understanding of the law and how it is written. This was evident at the instructors renewal class this year. I was hoping they were just having a bad day.

I disagree with the statement above. There is no deterioration in my opinion. They have made this statement all along, well as long as I have been an instructor anyway. And I believe they are just parroting what the DPS lawyers are saying. Right or wrong, we on this forum know that it would be a stretch for them to make the arrest, much less a conviction.

Let's get real about what they say and how it would be affected. First, you would have to be found carrying. If you are concealed properly, no one is going to see it and no issue should arise. If you carry past any sign openly, you are just asking to be given verbal notice, and you now have been properly advised you have to leave. If not, then they can arrest you for failure to depart.

SO, IMO the chances are between slim and none, and Slim has left town, that a properly concealed carrier would ever run into this situation.

As the shirt says, Be Calm and Carry On

Nutcracker wrote:If you don't want to notify Internal Affairs at his agency to help them avoid a lawsuit for false arrest, because maybe they deserve one, at least please notify the DPS training division so they can correct his flawed instruction for future students. Those innocent LTC students don't deserve to suffer a bad a instructor.

It will not do any good. DPS tells instructors that any 'no guns' sign is notification, legal or not, so they will not take action on an instructor teaching this.

As for going after the instructor/LEO for his statement, until he actually follows though with an arrest, it's just hearsay and I seriously doubt the department would do anything pre-arrest either.