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buzzkill wrote: ↑Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:53 pm

cirus wrote: ↑Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:01 pm

03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:36 pm She needs to be in jail in my humble opinion. Hopefully she gets what she deserves.

Which is what?

The same a black guy would get if he walked into a white cop's home and shot them dead.

03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:42 am

cirus wrote: ↑Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:33 am
There's a big difference between walking into a house that you think is yours, not kicking the door in and shooting someone you think is an intruder and knowingly kicking the door off the hinges on a house you know is not yours and knowing there may be somebody home with the intent to commit a crime.

Wrong analogy. The correct analogy would be, MS13 member walks into residence, shoots and kills man. MS13 member claims he made a mistake by thinking it was his home and the dead man was an intruder. MS13 member says, "my bad".

BBYC wrote: ↑Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:27 pm If the roles were reversed...

ELB wrote: ↑Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:29 am

Killadocg23 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:25 am Being tired from working a 14hr shift is no excuse. How many thousands of people work 14hr shifts everyday and don’t go to the wrong apartment and shoot somebody in their OWN apartment. Just wow.

Not an excuse, and jury still out on what exactly happened here, but fatigue is not a trivial factor either. The military and commercial air services came to grips with this a long time ago because when a pilot makes a fatigue-induced error that kills, it's immediate, spectacular, and takes a lot of people and $$$ with him. Hence flying hour restrictions are in place. The commercial trucking industry has sleep/drive restrictions. It appears to me the work shifts for doctors in training and in ERs are often pretty brutal, actually, and it's been accepted for a long time that it's part of being a doctor in those circumstances. Coincidentally perhaps, there seem to be a high rate of errors in hospitals. But the results of erroneous medicine happen to individual patients, one at a time, and are not always fatal,, and thus are handled individually. So short of cutting off the wrong leg they don't make a newspaper headline like crashing an airliner does.

Cops would seem to be in a similar situation as doctors -- long shifts, sometimes double shifts, probably most fatigue-induced errors are small and not very noticeable to the public at large. Applying duty hour restrictions to cops (and medical personnel) will drive up costs substantially, so I don't see anyone making a push for this any time soon.

spectre wrote: ↑Sun Sep 09, 2018 3:01 pm

ELB wrote: ↑Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:17 am Man that is not good. If that happened as first reported, she was eligible to be legally shot by the resident.

Unless the door was wide open, the killer unlawfully and with force entered the victim's occupied habitation. Deadly force is presumed justified against the armed intruder.

However, if the victim had shot her, and he survived, does anybody really think he would be treated as gently by the so called justice system as she is being treated?