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Tex1961 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:05 pm I’m just shy of 60. Old to many of you and young to many others. Over the last year I went down the RMR path but have returned to regular iron sights. My issue isn’t my eyesight but hands that aren’t as strong or steady as they used to be. Seeing the red dot on the target jinking around makes me look like I have Parkinson’s, and throws off my concentration. The iron sights while now harder to see due to my older eyes keep my sight picture more stable on the target. A conundrum for sure, but that’s my personal issue with RMR’s. Truly frustrating as I really do like them.

The Annoyed Man wrote: ↑Mon Feb 10, 2020 11:03 pm

Tex1961 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:05 pm I’m just shy of 60. Old to many of you and young to many others. Over the last year I went down the RMR path but have returned to regular iron sights. My issue isn’t my eyesight but hands that aren’t as strong or steady as they used to be. Seeing the red dot on the target jinking around makes me look like I have Parkinson’s, and throws off my concentration. The iron sights while now harder to see due to my older eyes keep my sight picture more stable on the target. A conundrum for sure, but that’s my personal issue with RMR’s. Truly frustrating as I really do like them.

I haven’t tried shooting an RMR-sighted pistol yet, but I had a very similar experience to yours with a laser-sighted handgun, with the same complaint. This was a S&W 642 with the Crimson Trace grip panels, belonging to my wife. The dot danced around just enough to make me start chasing it all over the target.

My thought (read that as "hope") is that, with an RMR, that effect would be less pronounced....the reason being that the dot isn’t actually projected onto the target, at the distal end of a beam. The amplitude of the movement of a laser beam at the proximal end is minuscule compared to the amplitude of its movement at the distal end a number of yards distant. So my hope is that a dot would behave the same way as the proximal end of a laser beam, and be therefore much less noticeable. But I’d want to try out someone else's RMR-sighted pistol before I made the investment in converting one of mine to an RMR, or bought a new one with that capability already built in....and then bought the actual optic.

K-Texas wrote: ↑Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:19 pm

Tex1961 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:42 pm

K-Texas wrote: ↑Mon Feb 10, 2020 3:46 pm

Tex1961 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:05 pm I’m just shy of 60. Old to many of you and young to many others. Over the last year I went down the RMR path but have returned to regular iron sights. My issue isn’t my eyesight but hands that aren’t as strong or steady as they used to be. Seeing the red dot on the target jinking around makes me look like I have Parkinson’s, and throws off my concentration. The iron sights while now harder to see due to my older eyes keep my sight picture more stable on the target. A conundrum for sure, but that’s my personal issue with RMR’s. Truly frustrating as I really do like them.

I haven't found one that works for me either. Takes too long to get the dot where it needs to be. Same with ARs, I much prefer a low magnification scope of 2X or less on the low end.

Crimson Trace is starting to do some very innovative things. Maybe they or someone else will offer a sight where the dot is fixed where you then adjust it for POA out to 25 yards, even 15 would be fine. Then I'd have a valid reason to add the Canik TP9SFx!

You won’t regret the SFX. one heck of a package

I've been shooting a TP9sa since November of 15 and use it for testing handloads. I like the SFl also that is the same length as the SFx, but is the tactical model without the +2 mag extensions. If a sighting system comes along that would work for me, the SFx would be a must have.

K-Texas wrote: ↑Mon Feb 10, 2020 3:46 pm

Tex1961 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:05 pm I’m just shy of 60. Old to many of you and young to many others. Over the last year I went down the RMR path but have returned to regular iron sights. My issue isn’t my eyesight but hands that aren’t as strong or steady as they used to be. Seeing the red dot on the target jinking around makes me look like I have Parkinson’s, and throws off my concentration. The iron sights while now harder to see due to my older eyes keep my sight picture more stable on the target. A conundrum for sure, but that’s my personal issue with RMR’s. Truly frustrating as I really do like them.

I haven't found one that works for me either. Takes too long to get the dot where it needs to be. Same with ARs, I much prefer a low magnification scope of 2X or less on the low end.

Crimson Trace is starting to do some very innovative things. Maybe they or someone else will offer a sight where the dot is fixed where you then adjust it for POA out to 25 yards, even 15 would be fine. Then I'd have a valid reason to add the Canik TP9SFx!