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by LDP
Mon Dec 02, 2019 12:55 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Oklahoma lieutenant indicted for stopping active shooter
Replies: 33
Views: 2854

Re: Oklahoma lieutenant indicted for stopping active shooter

cirus wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 12:52 pm
Like most people now a days the DA is just out for himself. Morality and common sense never came into play.
Impeach the DA? *shrug*
by LDP
Mon Dec 02, 2019 12:10 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Oklahoma lieutenant indicted for stopping active shooter
Replies: 33
Views: 2854

Re: Oklahoma lieutenant indicted for stopping active shooter

baseballguy2001 wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 12:06 pm
If you took the time to read the story, "a state grand jury determined that Lt. Mitchell engaged in “imminently dangerous conduct” without excusable or justifiable cause by firing approximately 60 rounds during the gun battle". Even if the officer fired only 30 rounds at the suspect when (she?) was cornered, that's a ton of lead flying around. He's not being indicted for stopping an active shooter, he's being indicted, correctly if you ask me, for basically continuing to shoot after the threat had been stopped and endangering fellow officers and the community.
Understood.
But I don't get why they slapped him with "2nd degree murder" then instead of something like "reckless endangerment". That's what puzzles me.
Is this just some silly vindication to begin with?

From reading the (limited) story, it seems like they kept shooting until they stopped the truck/threat. It took 60 rounds. Okay. It could have taken 59 or 61, it is hard to tell. But they stopped the threat and ceased fire. Unless there is more evidence that is not published in the story.
Got a link to a more detailed story?
by LDP
Mon Dec 02, 2019 12:07 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Oklahoma lieutenant indicted for stopping active shooter
Replies: 33
Views: 2854

Re: Oklahoma lieutenant indicted for stopping active shooter

chasfm11 wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2019 9:15 am
One has to question exactly what the "crime" was here.
Agreed. From the limited news coverage, there does not seem to be any new evidence of any wrongdoing.
Does anyone have any more information? I am really curious what kind of stuff the DA has pulled out of his behind if there is no public evidence. Or does he have a secret ace up the sleeve, one that he shared only with the grand jury?

chasfm11 wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2019 9:15 am
But perhaps even more heinous than any of that is my chief concern with District Attorneys. They seem to file cases based on whether those matters will advance their careers rather than to serve justice. I get it.
I don't (get it).
Yes, I agree with you 100%. But I do not get why we have a fundamentally flawed system in which public servants (such as DAs, senators, congressmen) serve themselves and not their constituents.
This should have never happened but the change crept up on us and now the new system is established and has a very solid foundation and is not going anywhere. So much for the "government of the people, by the people, FOR the people".
Are our founding fathers turning in their graves? :banghead:
by LDP
Thu Nov 28, 2019 2:01 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Oklahoma lieutenant indicted for stopping active shooter
Replies: 33
Views: 2854

Re: Oklahoma lieutenant indicted for stopping active shooter

glock27 wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:43 pm
But “a grand jury can indict a ham sandwhich”.
Agree.
However, if we naturally expand this to "any jury can provide a guilty verdict", I would not see the Sheriff's fate in exactly a positive light.
I am a skeptic when it comes to humans. "A jury of your peers" always makes me scared. For a good reason. That's a lie. We are statistically much more likely to see a jury of easily influenced liberal fear mongers. Those people do not follow logic or the letter of the law, they prefer their feelings and emotions. Not the smartest move when deciding another human's fate.
I fear the day when this verdict will become binding "given the good moral character of the defendant and the lack of any evidence, your honor, we, the almighty jury, feel that the defendant is guilty".
Did I mention I do not have faith in humankind?
by LDP
Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:49 am
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Oklahoma lieutenant indicted for stopping active shooter
Replies: 33
Views: 2854

Re: Oklahoma lieutenant indicted for stopping active shooter

Wow, just wow.
This country is going down the toilet fast. If libtard morons can twist the law so bad that they send LEOs to jail for protecting our lives, that is beyond insane.
One day, a LEO will save a libtard's life and the same moron will send the LEO to jail for hurting a criminal in the process of killing a libtard.

Hey, I have an idea. Could we build a huge wall, let's say between us the the blue morons? Then tell criminals: "our half is heavily defended with smart and trained people with guns, the half behind the wall is full of defenseless idiots and with no police - choose wisely!"
Doesn't that sound like a great utopian society?

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