Weird...seems like the State of Texas would be seeking relief for it's citizens, not its employees.Paladin wrote: ↑Thu Jun 01, 2023 12:49 pm GOA, GOF, State of Texas Secure Preliminary Injunction Against Biden Pistol Brace Ban
This evening, Judge Drew B. Tipton issued a preliminary injunction against the Biden Pistol Brace Ban in a lawsuit brought by Gun Owners of America (GOA), the Gun Owners Foundation (GOF), and the State of Texas. This injunction applies to all members of Gun Owners of America and individuals employed directly by the State of Texas or its agencies.
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- Thu Jun 01, 2023 3:05 pm
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: ATF Released New Proposed Pistol Brace Rules
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- Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:04 pm
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
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John Lovell weighs in.
- Thu Feb 09, 2023 8:38 pm
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
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GOA AND TEXAS AG PAXTON FILE SUIT AGAINST ATF PISTOL BRACE RULE
https://www.gunowners.org/goa-and-texas ... race-rule/
https://www.gunowners.org/goa-and-texas ... race-rule/
Washington, D.C. – Today, Gun Owners of America (GOA) and the Gun Owners Foundation (GOF) jointly filed a lawsuit challenging the Biden Pistol Brace Ban with Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton. The suit was filed in U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Texas.
- Thu Feb 09, 2023 7:21 pm
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
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NRA, 25 states sue Biden ATF to stop 'arbitrary' and 'unlawful' pistol brace rule
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/nra-25 ... brace-rule
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/nra-25 ... brace-rule
The National Rifle Association (NRA) is challenging a move by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) to regulate guns equipped with stabilizing braces, also called pistol arm braces, like short-barreled rifles, which require a federal license to own under the National Firearms Act (NFA). In a federal lawsuit being filed in North Dakota Thursday, the NRA argues that ATF's new rule is "arbitrary" and vague to the point of being an "abuse of power."
"The bureau is declaring that they will effectively decide on a case-by-case basis whether a firearm is subject to the NFA. Every American gun owner is in danger of potentially facing felony charges at the whim of these bureaucrats and without any new statute in place," said Jason Ouimet, executive director, National Rifle Association Institute for Legislative Action.
NRA is joined in the lawsuit by SB Tactical, B&T USA, Wounded Warrior Richard Cicero, and a coalition of 25 states led by West Virginia Attorney General Patrick Morrisey and North Dakota Attorney General Drew Wrigley, including Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah, Virginia and Wyoming.
- Thu Feb 02, 2023 12:05 pm
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: ATF Released New Proposed Pistol Brace Rules
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Soccerdad1995 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 10:39 am
I will likely wait a couple months to see how the legal appeals play out before I make a decision on this.
- Wed Feb 01, 2023 10:47 am
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: ATF Released New Proposed Pistol Brace Rules
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“The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. … Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” — Thomas Jefferson, “Commonplace Book,” quoting 18th-century criminologist Cesare Beccaria, 1774-1776
“Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined. … The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun.” — Patrick Henry, speech to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 5, 1778
There is only one reason people in power wish to disarm citizens. Control and power.
“Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined. … The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun.” — Patrick Henry, speech to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 5, 1778
There is only one reason people in power wish to disarm citizens. Control and power.
- Wed Feb 01, 2023 10:39 am
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: ATF Released New Proposed Pistol Brace Rules
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- Tue Jan 31, 2023 9:59 am
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
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Rep. Andrew Clyde to Use Congressional Review Act to Override ATF Stabilizer Brace Rule
https://www.breitbart.com/2nd-amendment ... race-rule/
https://www.breitbart.com/2nd-amendment ... race-rule/
Rep. Andrew Clyde (R-GA) announced Monday he will use the Congressional Review Act against the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives’ (ATF’s) pistol/stabilizer brace rule.
Breitbart News reported that the ATF’s pistol/stabilizer brace rule was finalized January 13, 2023, and that the agency is giving owners of pistols with said braces 120 days to register the firearms, once the rule appears in the Federal Registry.
On January 14, 2023, Breitbart News noted that the Congressional Review Act offered an avenue by which Congress could block the ATF’s rule.
Rep. Clyde and his colleagues are ready to use the Congressional Review Act and other means to stop the rule from turning millions of law-abiding gun owners into criminals.
Clyde spoke on the House floor Monday, saying:
Next week, I will reintroduce the Stop Harassing Owners of Rifles Today Act, or the SHORT Act, to repeal elements of the National Firearms Act, thereby prohibiting the ATF from registering and banning pistols with stabilizing braces. Additionally, as soon as the ATF’s unlawful rule is published to the Federal Register, I will introduce a resolution of disapproval under the Congressional Review Act, to override the Biden administration’s unlawful overreach.
Gun owners, hear me loud and clear:
We’re fighting for you and your Second Amendment freedoms—and we will never give up. pic.twitter.com/0LfUslyEwM
— Rep. Andrew Clyde (@Rep_Clyde) January 30, 2023
The Brookings Institute summarizes the Congressional Review Act:
Passed as part of the Contract with America Advancement Act of 1996, the Congressional Review Act creates a streamlined procedure by which Congress can disapprove and thereby nullify regulations promulgated by various federal government agencies. The Congressional Review Act quires that all rules be reported to Congress. Upon receiving that report, Congress then has 60 legislative working days (which is generally a much longer period than 60 calendar days) to introduce a special joint resolution of disapproval of the rule.
That resolution can be discharged from committee and can avoid the Senate’s filibuster, thereby empowering Congress to contend with the administrative state’s vast rulemaking powers on something closer to an equal footing.
The U.S. Government Accountability Office explains the Congressional Review Act thusly: “The Congressional Review Act allows Congress to review ‘major’ rules issued by federal agencies before the rules take effect. Congress may also disapprove new rules, resulting in the rules having no force or effect.”
- Tue Jan 31, 2023 8:25 am
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: ATF Released New Proposed Pistol Brace Rules
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ATF downplays impact of new gun ruling, expects 60% to register AR ‘pistols’
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... 57e36d982e
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... 57e36d982e
But in the impact statement, ATF said those figures are inflated. It estimated that just three million people might be impacted.
It estimated that of those with the firearms, 826,000 will decide to register their 1.6 million weapons with the rest turning them into ATF or destroying or altering them.
- Mon Jan 30, 2023 4:11 pm
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: ATF Released New Proposed Pistol Brace Rules
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The new rules are due to be posted to the Federal Register tomorrow 1/31/2023. The 120 day entrapment...oops...120 day amnesty period starts tomorrow.
- Wed Jan 25, 2023 6:41 pm
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: ATF Released New Proposed Pistol Brace Rules
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LEO have special privileges above mere citizens. Their badge will protect them, assuming of course that they comply with the ATF’s requests for assistance rounding up the new felon gun owners.Bolton Strid wrote: ↑Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:30 am
An aspect I haven't seen mentioned anywhere are the LEOs who have bought 10 inch barreled ARs with a brace setup. They're lighter, handier to manipulate inside a vehicle and have sufficient firepower for the distances they're likely to engage at. The reduced velocity and range of those actually aids in public safety surrounding a conflict scene. Those folk are gonna find themselves in the same sort of pickle as the public. Hope they're being sufficiently vocal about it themselves.
- Sat Jan 21, 2023 11:13 am
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: ATF Released New Proposed Pistol Brace Rules
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“Did you really think that we want those laws to be observed?” said Dr. Ferris. “We want them broken. You’d better get it straight that it’s not a bunch of boy scouts you’re up against — then you’ll know that this is not the age for beautiful gestures. We’re after power and we mean it. You fellows were pikers, but we know the real trick, and you’d better get wise to it. There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can be neither observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted — and you create a nation of law-breakers — and then you cash in on guilt. Now that’s the system, Mr. Rearden, that’s the game, and once you understand it, you’ll be much easier to deal with.” [from Atlas Shrugged]
- Fri Jan 20, 2023 12:10 pm
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
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If anyone hasn't read this book, now would be a good time.LDB415 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:16 pm It seems to be nothing but a blatant violation of the Second Amendment created to make millions of honest citizens into criminals and to allow confiscation, the first of what will become many confiscations, of legal weapons. It brings to mind the book Unintended Consequences by John Ross.
https://billstclair.com/Unintended-Consequences.pdf
- Fri Jan 20, 2023 8:41 am
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: ATF Released New Proposed Pistol Brace Rules
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- Sun Jan 15, 2023 3:53 pm
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
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ThanksThe Annoyed Man wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 1:45 pmI just sent you a PM with details.Grayling813 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 11:47 am Factoring Criteria for Firearms with Attached “Stabilizing Braces”
https://www.atf.gov/rules-and-regulatio ... ing-braces
On January 13, 2023, the Attorney General signed ATF final rule 2021R-08F, “Factoring Criteria for Firearms with Attached ‘Stabilizing Braces,’” amending ATF’s regulations to clarify when a rifle is designed, made, and intended to be fired from the shoulder.
One of the requirements of individual “Responsible Persons” registration is electronic fingerprint cards. Where is the best place to get these done?
I have an AR pistol that I need to reluctantly register as a SBR.