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by Grayling813
Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:24 pm
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Topic: When America understood warship building
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Re: When America understood warship building

ScottDLS wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 6:46 pm
Grayling813 wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 6:21 pm
ScottDLS wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 5:30 pm

Navy doctrine was somewhat similar in the 1980s with CVN's leading the battle group for power projection. DDG's and CG's with phased array radar way out as pickets (i.e. as Soviet AS-4 missile sponges and SM-2 magazines for said sponges). Then DD's a little closer in with Tomahawk and Harpoon cruise missiles for surface attack and some torpedoes as a last ditch Hail Mary for enemy subs that got past the SSN's also guarding the battle group.

Plus all manner of Oilers, Tenders, and USNS supply ships to carry the JP-5, DFM, beans, bullets, spare parts, and ordnance for said battle group.
And we would sneak right inside all of those picket ships, launch "water slugs" (a torpedo tube full of water that simulates torpedo launch) and a flare to indicate our launching position. Once was so close to the USS Midway that our flare almost fell onto the flight deck. We watched crewmen running around after the flare went up pointing at where it came up from.

Good times!
That's why we were glad that the Soviet Alphas were so loud, so our SSN's could catch them before they could sink our pickets....I mean who would soak up all the AS4 missiles before they got to the carriers of not for the CG's and their erstwhile VLS missile magazines (aka DDG's).
Had an interesting conversation in the Philippines with a sonar tech from a destroyer that was with the battle group we were exercising with....said they heard us coming, then nothing. Next thing they heard was our water slugs and flare launches.
by Grayling813
Fri Jan 24, 2020 6:21 pm
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Topic: When America understood warship building
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Re: When America understood warship building

ScottDLS wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 5:30 pm

Navy doctrine was somewhat similar in the 1980s with CVN's leading the battle group for power projection. DDG's and CG's with phased array radar way out as pickets (i.e. as Soviet AS-4 missile sponges and SM-2 magazines for said sponges). Then DD's a little closer in with Tomahawk and Harpoon cruise missiles for surface attack and some torpedoes as a last ditch Hail Mary for enemy subs that got past the SSN's also guarding the battle group.

Plus all manner of Oilers, Tenders, and USNS supply ships to carry the JP-5, DFM, beans, bullets, spare parts, and ordnance for said battle group.
And we would sneak right inside all of those picket ships, launch "water slugs" (a torpedo tube full of water that simulates torpedo launch) and a flare to indicate our launching position. Once was so close to the USS Midway that our flare almost fell onto the flight deck. We watched crewmen running around after the flare went up pointing at where it came up from.

Good times!
by Grayling813
Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:07 am
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Topic: When America understood warship building
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Re: When America understood warship building

Jago668 wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 7:46 am
Liberty wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 6:58 am
This ole Army guy sure wishes he knew what all these abbreviations meant. CAP, CVNs, BBs, SSNs, and SSBNs are some kinda super-secret Naval code.
I know CAP is Combat Air Patrol, I know BB is for battleships, but don't know what it actually stands for.
CVN - aircraft carrier nuclear
SSN - attack submarine nuclear
SSBN - ballistic missile submarine nuclear
Also there are:
SSGN - guided missile submarine nuclear (the US SSGN’s are SSBN’s converted to carry cruise missiles instead of ballistic missiles)
Finally, some countries still build and deploy:
SS - submarine diesel electric

I served on two SSN’s - one named after a fish and one named after a city.
by Grayling813
Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:34 pm
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Topic: When America understood warship building
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Re: When America understood warship building

Iunnrais wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:21 am
The Bismarck bow on is an impressive sight. I'll take one of our last 8 BBs though - the South Dakotas and Iowas. North Carolina and Washington are good looking too (but a little lighter on the armor)
The New Jersey BB-62 is the one I saw coming into port in San Diego. I was on the USS McKee at Point Loma and watched it from as far out as I could see it until it went past to dock in San Diego harbor.
by Grayling813
Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:53 am
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Topic: When America understood warship building
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When America understood warship building

I had seen numerous aircraft carriers both docked, passing by in channels and at sea. None were as impressive as the first time I saw a battleship.

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