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by artx
Sun May 26, 2013 10:49 am
Forum: 2013 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: Are HB 508 and SB 1907 the Main Sausage Left
Replies: 69
Views: 10990

Re: Are HB 508 and SB 1907 the Main Sausage Left

Before y'all run Carona out of town on a rail, have you looked at the pro 2a bills he has helped with in the past? There are a lot.

Also, after watching the TX legislature fairly closely for 4 sessions now, I agree with Chas that Carona's amendment helps pass a bill like hb3218 in upcoming sessions. Before going with the emotional response, think about how pro gun laws actuall get passed in Texas.

The general flow of pro 2a bills that are contraversal in the TX legislature goes like this:

1) Exposure - bill is introduced but has little chance for passage. May get a committee hearing or one house floor vote, but not tremendous progress.
2) Groundswell of support and debate - bill is heavily debated in committee, is supported by a sizable 'contact your reps/senators campaign', may get through one house but ultimately fails. This can continue for several sessions (employer parking lots is good example). TSRA, NRA lobbyists help generate support and influence representatives/senators to vote for the bill.
3) bill overcomes hurdles and is eventually passed. Examples like the HB 508 modifications help here (hey, you allowed yourselves to do this! Besides, nothing bad happened, just like we predicted).

TSRA and their lobbyist (Alice Tripp) helps tremendously with this process.

In short, do I like the 'some animals are more equal than others' scenario as it exists for a couple years? Of course not. But I can see how it can help long term.

FYI judges and prosecutors today can carry into off limits locations.
by artx
Fri May 24, 2013 9:17 pm
Forum: 2013 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: Are HB 508 and SB 1907 the Main Sausage Left
Replies: 69
Views: 10990

Re: Are HB 508 and SB 1907 the Main Sausage Left

HB 508 update - Senate conference committee report filed - http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/BillLook ... Bill=HB508

Not sure if this means they reached agreement with the House conference committee members or not.

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