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by ScottDLS
Thu May 11, 2023 7:48 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?
Replies: 1085
Views: 332820

Re: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?

NotRPB wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 4:01 pm UPDATE MAY 11, 2023
NEW NON-COMPLIANT TINY SIGNS ON THE ENTRANCE OF THE ROOM WHERE BURNET APPRAISAL PROTESTS ARE HELD WHICH IS NEXT DOOR TO THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT WHERE YOU GO IN TO PAY...-LOOKS LIKE 30.06 30.07 AND WHO KNOWS WHAT ARE ON 3X5 OR 4X6 CARDS TAPED ON A GLASS DOOR, THEY WANT TO PRETEND IT'S A COURTROOM I GUESS ... WHO IS THE JUDGE?

OR
THEY MAY BE RELYING ON
"APPRAISAL DISTRICT REVIEW BOARD"

Sec. 46.035. UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF HANDGUN BY LICENSE HOLDER.
(c) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries a handgun under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, regardless of whether the handgun is concealed or carried in a holster, in the room or rooms where a meeting of a governmental entity is held and if the meeting is an open meeting subject to Chapter 551, Government Code, and the entity provided notice as required by that chapter.
https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/Docs ... GV.551.htm
Chapter 551, Government Code,
(H) the governing board of a special district created by law;

SO, WHAT NOTICE IS REQUIRED BY Chapter 551, Government Code? ALL I SEE IS THEY NEED TO POST NOTICE OF OPEN MEETING AT THE COURTHOUSE ON A BULLETIN BOARD? I SEE NOTHING ABOUT NOTICE TO NOT CARRY BEING REQUIRED, JUST THAT IT'S UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF HANDGUN BY LICENSE HOLDER. (WITH NO NOTICE REQUIREMENT?)


STILL, THE SIGNS ARE SMALL &

(BUT NO SIGNS ON APPRAISAL DISTRICT MAIN ENTRANCE NEXT DOOR WHERE YOU GO IN TO PAY)


I'LL TRY TO GET PICTURES LATER

Physical Address: Directions
223 South Pierce Street
Burnet, Texas 78611-3136

Mailing Address:
P.O. Box 908
Burnet, Texas 78611-0908

Phone Numbers:
Phone Number: (512)-756-8291
Espanol: (512)-756-8291 #2

Email:
info@burnetad.org

Lobby Hours:
Monday - Friday 9:00 a.m. - 4:00 p.m.

Operations: 8:00 a.m. - 5:00 p.m.

Chief Appraiser:
Stan Hemphill
RPB wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:47 am UPDATE
Mon Oct 17, 2011
Burnet County Appraisal District removed their improper signs

They HAD a sign on the door, 3 years ago, and [/u]I mentioned it to the employees, they still had the sign 2 years ago, so I called the County Criminal Prosecutor who said he thinks appraisal districts are Courts because like the restaurant, office supply store etc, it's on the Courthouse square and they have administrative "hearings" there (with real estate appraisers, not Judges)

Last year, I mentioned it to a County Judge who's husband was running for District Judge (both have CHLs and are VERY knowledgeable ;-) ) [ I asked the candidate if he had a CHL when he was campaigning, he said yes he and his wife both do ... I then told him about the non-compliant unenforceable sign ...]

Went and paid my House taxes minutes ago, took camera to photo the sign .... doors now have no sign except the hours they are open and one pointing to envelopes and drop box for after hours payments. :mrgreen: No such signs inside either.

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I updated the entry on Texas3006.com just now too ;-)
I just quit caring. I carry anyway. I've seen all sorts of weird signs at county buildings in Denton county where I live. The only place I try to be careful is in JP courts in those buildings. I have frequently had business in them. To Tarrant County's credit, at least in the precinct I went to, only the JP court offices were posted, with signs clearly indicating they were court offices. They even had a metal detector in front of the actual courtroom.
by ScottDLS
Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:09 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?
Replies: 1085
Views: 332820

Re: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?

Abraham wrote: Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:23 pm WR,

As an attorney with your much Clarence Darrow like-wisdom, I really appreciate your wonderful legal expertise and opinions about....everything.

Thanks and please keep it up.

We're all waiting for your next gem.
You're just mad because he didn't put IANALLTPLITWASICRAFASCL (I am not a lawyer licensed to practice law in Texas with a specialty in civil rights and federal and state criminal law) on his post. :smilelol5:

DISIWAL (Did I SAY I was a lawyer?)....OK then. :rules:
by ScottDLS
Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:01 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?
Replies: 1085
Views: 332820

Re: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?

troglodyte wrote:
bigity wrote:Are the procedures in this thread still correct?

The South Plains Fair has posted 30.06/.07 signs at the entrance to the South Plains Fairgrounds in Texas, which is owned (as far as I can tell) by Lubbock County, making the signs invalid.

I know the AG has ruled that the governmental entity cannot be fined for something a third party has done (was anything passed this last session to deal with this?), but where do I document/submit this as an invalid sign?
I'm pretty sure the South Plains Fair is owned by a private, non-profit organization, The South Plains Fair Association.
What about the land (Fairgrounds) that the Fair is held on?
by ScottDLS
Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:50 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?
Replies: 1085
Views: 332820

Re: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?

bigity wrote:So basically these signs come down to a 'beat the rap, but not the ride' situation possibly?
The proverbial "ride" for a $200 ticket...unless we're talking court offices. :biggrinjester:
by ScottDLS
Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:42 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?
Replies: 1085
Views: 332820

Re: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?

chasfm11 wrote:
ScottDLS wrote:
sbrawley wrote:The public lobby at the Harris County Sheriff's processing center is now posted with a big red ugly 30.06 sign. This is on the public side where there is no access to the secure side.
I suggest open carrying in there...if you're willing to risk "the ride". The rid should be short since you're already at the Sheriff's office. :evil2:
Perhaps it is just me, but I don't high expectations of getting a fair trial on a gun issue in Harris County......or Travis County. The presence of the sign in the first place tells me their regard for the law.
Presumably they could only charge you with a class C 30.07. And it's clear law that it doesn't apply on government property. My guess would be interfering with a police officer, or disorderly conduct. Those are nice vague catch all crimes that equate to "LEO thinks you're annoying".
by ScottDLS
Thu Apr 27, 2017 7:46 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?
Replies: 1085
Views: 332820

Re: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?

sbrawley wrote:The public lobby at the Harris County Sheriff's processing center is now posted with a big red ugly 30.06 sign. This is on the public side where there is no access to the secure side.
I suggest open carrying in there...if you're willing to risk "the ride". The rid should be short since you're already at the Sheriff's office. :evil2:
by ScottDLS
Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:24 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?
Replies: 1085
Views: 332820

Re: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?

Just to bump this topic. Went to the Denton County Precinct 3 Building today and I carried concealed past the 30.06 sign. I'm still shaking from the thought of possibly "taking the ride". I pocket carried a .380 auto and the Constable on duty didn't notice... whew!!! :evil2:
by ScottDLS
Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:22 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?
Replies: 1085
Views: 332820

Re: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?

mojo84 wrote:It depends on whether the parking lot is inside the secured portion of the refinery/chemical plant property or not.
Again, what statute would you be charged under if you carried into the secured portion of refinery/chemical plant property IN YOUR CAR?
by ScottDLS
Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:36 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?
Replies: 1085
Views: 332820

Re: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?

OldAg wrote:I need to clarify my post.

I was talking specifically about employees of those chemical companies. The statute that I was thinking of is the same one that requires companies to allow employees to be able to leave their weapons locked in their personal vehicles in the parking lot (Labor Code 52.061) which has an exception for inside the secured area of the plant (LC 52.062).

The company doesn't have to post 30.06/07 notices for the employees because they have already given them verbal notice that handguns are prohibited on company property.
What is the statute that an employee of a chemical plant would be charged with for having a gun in their car? LC 52.062 is not a criminal statute and 30.06 doesn't apply to carrying in your vehicle. :rules: :rules:
by ScottDLS
Wed Apr 27, 2016 9:46 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?
Replies: 1085
Views: 332820

Re: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?

TrueFlog wrote:Dowell Middle School in McKinney has 30.06 and 30.07 signs posted at the main entrance to the building. I'm not sure if the signs violate SB 273 or not. I don't see any point in reporting them to the DA since they're not hurting anything; the school is already off-limits by statute.
They technically don't violate the law because a school is already prohibited under 46.03. I wish they would come up with a standard sign for schools/courthouses, etc. Then they could make a defense to prosecution if they don't post the sign like w/ 51% signs.
by ScottDLS
Mon Oct 05, 2015 8:14 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?
Replies: 1085
Views: 332820

Re: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?

EEllis wrote:
puma guy wrote: if a CHL holder unloads their weapon in public that would require exposing it. That's currently a violation.
Under the directions of a peace office at the entry table? I doubt it. And the fact that it would contradict doesn't automatically invalidate anything.
You may be correct if directed by a peace officer. I am missing the point of the second statement.[/quote]
The fact that you can't unload without displaying doesn't automatically render the requirement to unload invalid or actionable. Additionally by the time it could get to court the "illegal" display issue will no longer be, well, illegal. Not really a winner of an argument IMO. While it seems clearly against the intention of the new law I see nothing that would violate the actual language of the law.[/quote]

What law would you be violating if you loaded after entering? (presuming you did it without displaying).
by ScottDLS
Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:32 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?
Replies: 1085
Views: 332820

Re: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?

Deltaboy wrote:County Tax Assessor Office in Cleburne TX! It is a seperate building from the Court house which also has a Non complaint 30-06 Neither are 2 colored or in Spanish.

Tax Assessor office = FAIL. But the Courthouse is prohibited whether they post or not, so the compliance of the sign is irrelevant. I think sometimes the courthouses post "semi" 30.06 signs, just to warn CHL's that carry is prohibited, even though they don't have to. I think a good cleanup of the law would be to specify a sign that courthouses and other prohibited places MUST post, otherwise you have at least a Defense to Prosecution...like w/ a 51% sign.
by ScottDLS
Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:06 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?
Replies: 1085
Views: 332820

Re: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?

Pete92FS wrote:
joe817 wrote:There's one of those signs on my local convenience store glass doors. As I interpret it, as long as you have a CHL and are concealed(as you have to be, per law), you are ok to go in.

Anybody else agree with that?
I agree - that's the sign we want to see - interpret as CHL's welcome.
Purplehood wrote:I like those signs. They indicate awareness to me.
To me they indicate that the store got their pack of forms from TABC and actually posted the right one as they are required to under the Alcoholic Beverage Code. But, that's just me... :lol:

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