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Skiprr wrote:

ScottDLS wrote:

Skiprr wrote: ....
But there really is a reason it takes the state a while to complete background checks for licenses. It isn't just a quick 60-second check of computerized national and state databases. The LTC check can go down to the county level--some counties' records are more computerized than others--and there's no real statute of limitations. Convictions of a Class B or higher will almost certainly appear on a quick database search but, for example, an arrest might show up on the DPS check with no disposition status even though the case was dismissed. Paying half the cost of the LTC application fee in advance to try to turn up everything DPS might find is not cost-effective, and may even be a waste of time.
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Are you sure about this? I say this because based on the information provided on the application, there's really not a whole lot the DPS can do besides a computer check and the FBI fingerprint check against NCIC and the auto NICS. What are they going down to the county level to check, assuming you don't pop up on the computer scan? What if you lived out of state for 5 years then moved to Dallas County (automated) two years ago? How are they going to get that deferred adjudication from 20 years ago when you were visiting Alaska? If it isn't in NCIC it didn't happen.

There are people who have reported getting a LTC in 3 weeks on their initial pass. What is DPS going to find in 2 weeks that you didn't list on your app and isn't in FBI database?

Sure about what? That "the LTC check can go down to the county level"? Sure I am. That's one reason GC §411.176 has language about the "director's designee in the geographical area."

That every application is scrupulously checked in all umpteen out-of-state counties you've lived in since 1975? No; I'm absolutely not sure of that.

Are you categorically stating that if an LTC applicant fails to disclose an arrest on the application for which a conviction did not come up in NICS or NCIC, that all is squeaky clean and DPS will never be the wiser that the arrest was not disclosed?

Skiprr wrote: ....
But there really is a reason it takes the state a while to complete background checks for licenses. It isn't just a quick 60-second check of computerized national and state databases. The LTC check can go down to the county level--some counties' records are more computerized than others--and there's no real statute of limitations. Convictions of a Class B or higher will almost certainly appear on a quick database search but, for example, an arrest might show up on the DPS check with no disposition status even though the case was dismissed. Paying half the cost of the LTC application fee in advance to try to turn up everything DPS might find is not cost-effective, and may even be a waste of time.
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