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by ScottDLS
Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:31 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: What would you do?
Replies: 44
Views: 3467

Re: What would you do?

Ruark wrote:
ScottDLS wrote:On a more serious note (from my last post). It seems Texas law allows for deadly force in protection of property, or against criminal mischief at night. I wonder if this is because deadly force doesn't HAVE to kill someone, only have the potential/possibility to.
When you talk about "taking a life," it's not just his life you're taking, it's your life, too, by the time you get through paying retainers and fees. How much equity do you have in your house? That might cover your bail.

I'd hate to explain to a jury how I was in immediate danger of death or serious bodily injury while sitting in my car watching somebody step out of my garage.

Once again, we have the situation of "holding him with your gun until the police arrive." So you think you'll pull your gun and he'll suddenly obey your every command? If he ignores you and walks off, you'll just blow his head off? Yeah.

I think this whole line of reasoning is faulty. People sometimes ask "can I shoot if..." "can I shoot if..." "can I shoot if..." when the right mindset should be more like, "am I in clear, immediate danger of death or seriously injury, such that the ONLY WAY I can prevent it is to shoot?"
You are not necessarily in clear immediate danger of death or serious injury if someone is breaking into your house at night and you don't know if they are armed or not, but will you be weighing your testimony to the jury before deciding to shoot? There are also situations where I would use deadly force in defense of another, even if they weren't in immediate danger of death. Robbery, kidnapping, and rape come to mind.
by ScottDLS
Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:57 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: What would you do?
Replies: 44
Views: 3467

Re: What would you do?

On a more serious note (from my last post). It seems Texas law allows for deadly force in protection of property, or against criminal mischief at night. I wonder if this is because deadly force doesn't HAVE to kill someone, only have the potential/possibility to.

Maybe it dates back to the cattle rustling or horse thief days. If you're in the middle of the wilderness and someone steals your horse, you may very well be dead. In that case there seems some moral as well as legal justification for shooting someone, in defense of property. As far as a TV...maybe legally justified. Morally...between you and your creator.

One situation where I might be willing to take a life is for strong arm robbery. If someone demands my wallet, clearly outsizes me, and threatens violence if they don't get it, I might shoot them. Even if I can replace the contents easily. Another situation, rape. I wouldn't hesitate to take a life even if my wasn't in danger. And I HAVE taken the LTC course multiple times... :rules:
by ScottDLS
Sun Mar 26, 2017 10:02 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: What would you do?
Replies: 44
Views: 3467

Re: What would you do?

Double tap to the head then drag him back into the house before the cops get there. Then tell the cops that you didn't mean to shoot him, but your revolver went off (twice) while cleaning it. Oh yeah and you were in fear of your life or something. :coolgleamA:

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