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ScottDLS <----- Still trying to figure out if right on red is legal from the outside turning lane....

baseballguy2001 wrote:A hassle? Understatement of the year friend. The basic problem is, when government makes a mistake, and I'm putting it mildly here, almost nobody is ever held accountable.
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Realize however in this case it's a matter of a $500 fine and no jail time, as outrageous as that is, it is only by (rightly) pursuing it that the cost of appeal becomes prohibitive. This is undoubtedly why the idiot Oregon legislature set the penalty as essentially their version of a "Class C" misdemeanor. They know it has zero chance of withstanding Constitutional scrutiny, but figured no one would challenge it, if they just made it a monetary "hassle".

Getting shot by Barney Fife in Florida is significantly different than getting "ticketed" for speaking out. Both are wrong, but the stakes are a lot higher in the case of the Florida woman. The Institute for Justice can not bring her back.

baseballguy2001 wrote:What you vote for, is what you get. I'm pretty sure The Oregon State Board of Examiners for Engineering and Land Surveying, isn't elected, but the politicians who appropriate the money for the board sure are. The fine is clearly unconstitutional. All of us have heard it, "You may beat the rap, but you won't beat the ride". This guy is going to spend a lot more that $500 fighting this, and there will be zero consequences to the board members.

Luckily he has help from Institute for Justice. But still will be a hassle.