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by ScottDLS
Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:27 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Question: Chief Law Enforcement Office for NFA FORM 4 Notification
Replies: 27
Views: 1057

Re: Question: Chief Law Enforcement Office for NFA FORM 4 Notification

QB wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:02 pm
Well my paperwork was just submitted and I mailed a copy of the Form 4 and the "Responsible Person" form for each member on my trust to the Denton County Sheriff.
This added requirement is a bummer but better than having to have a sign off. My other submissions a few years back were approved within 4 months but I hear I'm in for a longer wait this time. Guess I'll stock up on 9mm subsonic ammo in the meantime. :lol:
Yeah the new Denton County Sheriff said he would sign off if he was elected in 2015(?) (he was, and I voted for him), the previous one wouldn't.

In early 2000's Sheriff Weldon Lucas would sign (or his designate Lt. Johnny Guest), but that was 15+ years ago...

Now with the new regs you don't need sign off, but every "responsible member" of an entity has to do fingerprints and photo. I suspect that slows things up. I really want to buy another machine gun, but I can't handle the prices. Maybe I'll buy a silencer for one of my AR-15's or my pistols.
by ScottDLS
Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:00 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Question: Chief Law Enforcement Office for NFA FORM 4 Notification
Replies: 27
Views: 1057

Re: Question: Chief Law Enforcement Office for NFA FORM 4 Notification

C-dub wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:10 pm
QB wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:09 am
I jus try completed my forms and used the Denton County Sheriff.....thanks for all the replies. And yes, it's just a notification, something I didn't have to do before the changes that went into effect (I have a trust).
That’s interesting. I didn’t realize that a trust allowed someone to circumvent having LE sign off on this before. And here I thought these changes only requiring notification were going to make these things easier.
That was the only reason 99% of people used trusts or other entities before. While the new regs in 2016 made it easier for people who previously couldn't find an acceptable (to ATF) CLEO to sign off, they now require photo and fingerprints for all the "responsible parties" of the entity. I got two machine guns and a silencer in 2002 and 2005 and was able to get the Denton County Sheriff at the time to sign off. Now that no sign off required all the cool stuff (transferable machine guns) have gone up 200-400%. $25,000 for a transferable M16... Sorry, I'll spend the money to get licensed as a Type 07/02 FFL manufacturer and build my own toys... :evil2:
by ScottDLS
Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:12 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Question: Chief Law Enforcement Office for NFA FORM 4 Notification
Replies: 27
Views: 1057

Re: Question: Chief Law Enforcement Office for NFA FORM 4 Notification

mrvmax wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:59 am
I would pick the agency most likely to sign off.
Agencies don't sign off any more. They are simply notified, by mailing a copy of the form.
by ScottDLS
Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:13 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Question: Chief Law Enforcement Office for NFA FORM 4 Notification
Replies: 27
Views: 1057

Re: Question: Chief Law Enforcement Office for NFA FORM 4 Notification

QB wrote:
Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:25 pm
I now live in Carrollton, TX (Denton County). I will call the Carrollton Police Department tomorrow but thought I'd ask here: has anyone that lives in Carrollton/Denton County submitted a FORM 4 and if so, who did you use as the Chief Law Enforcement Officer (and address)? Based on the below definition, I "assume" I can use the Carrollton Chief of Police? But I am not sure who has "jurisdiction" over my location (Carrollton, Denton County).

Thanks

Each responsible person must provide a notification on this form of the proposed making or acquisition of an NFA firearm to his/her chief law enforcement officer having jurisdiction where the responsible person is located. The chief law enforcement officer is considered to be the Chief of Police; the Sheriff; the Head of the State Police; or a State or local district attorney or prosecutor.

Denton County Sheriff will work.

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