I'm actually not sure how they would enforce it, other than by denying new purchases. In the end, no California politician is going to take law enforcement's offer to be the first in the SWAT stack outside some gunowner's door. California's leftists are like leftists everywhere - they're all about suppression of liberties, but only if they don't have to get their own hands dirty in the process. And given that, I would think that California cops are going to be a lot like Connecticut cops - COMPLETELY disinterested in getting killed trying to enforce some commie rat's fantasies.TreyNTX69 wrote:The only hope is that there are enough conservatives to block the bills from leaving committee, or to filibuster or create some kind of delays to prevent the vote, like maybe making sure they don't make it to the calendar or some such. I'm not familiar with the legislative process in California at all, but this is disgusting. Even though I live in TX and not CA, I pray this doesn't pass by some miracle.The Annoyed Man wrote:And like I pointed out earlier in this thread, SCOTUS declined to take up the Illinois AWB case, even with Scalia still alive and on the bench. What makes you think they would take up this case?Pawpaw wrote:Don't forget it will have to go through the 9th Circus Court who will rule the law is constitutional because, "ice cream has no bones".puma guy wrote:This makes all semi-auto rifles such as the 742 Remington, Model 100 Winchester, Browning BAR illegal as well as many others. I can't imagine this will not be defeated when challenged in courts.
As others have stated, if I were in CA, I'd be leaving and considering moving into Nevada and opening up a business to store and service these arms for the Californians who are in danger of losing them (or looking into that possibility... I've no idea if that would provide a legal option for our friends in CA or not).
If this passes... the next dangerous and extremely terrifying possibility would be collection of all the now illegal arms and the newly-created "criminals" this law would instantly create of otherwise and previously law-abiding citizens.
A very unfortunate situation. We all have to remember, this can happen anywhere... we all have to stay vigilant and involved in the legislative process no matter where we are. Thanks for posting this unfortunate news. I'm very sorry (and angry) to see this happen anywhere.
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- Tue Apr 19, 2016 2:40 pm
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- Thu Mar 03, 2016 12:44 am
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The California Supreme Court is a product of the same political environment that produced these bills.puma guy wrote:I am not familiar with California legislative procedure, so perhaps TAM can provide some insight. By what I can determine the bills passed by committee votes. I don't know where the general assembly comes in, if they do at all at this point. I assume any challenges would go through the California court system first.C-dub wrote:Since it hasn't gone to the 9th circuit yet, wouldn't the earliest the SCOTUS would make a decision on whether or not they would hear it at all come this session and then they would hear it during the next session?puma guy wrote:I am hoping since the 4th Circuit Court struck down Maryland's AWB and High Capacity ban there may be some hope. We'll have to wait and see what happens when/if MD appeals I suppose.The Annoyed Man wrote:And like I pointed out earlier in this thread, SCOTUS declined to take up the Illinois AWB case, even with Scalia still alive and on the bench. What makes you think they would take up this case?Pawpaw wrote:Don't forget it will have to go through the 9th Circus Court who will rule the law is constitutional because, "ice cream has no bones".puma guy wrote:This makes all semi-auto rifles such as the 742 Remington, Model 100 Winchester, Browning BAR illegal as well as many others. I can't imagine this will not be defeated when challenged in courts.
- Wed Mar 02, 2016 11:40 pm
- Forum: General Legislative Discussions
- Topic: New California AWB passes into law.
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And like I pointed out earlier in this thread, SCOTUS declined to take up the Illinois AWB case, even with Scalia still alive and on the bench. What makes you think they would take up this case?Pawpaw wrote:Don't forget it will have to go through the 9th Circus Court who will rule the law is constitutional because, "ice cream has no bones".puma guy wrote:This makes all semi-auto rifles such as the 742 Remington, Model 100 Winchester, Browning BAR illegal as well as many others. I can't imagine this will not be defeated when challenged in courts.
- Wed Mar 02, 2016 9:22 am
- Forum: General Legislative Discussions
- Topic: New California AWB passes into law.
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And pending a favorable decision, which is by no means guaranteed as even before Scalia's death SCOTUS refused to take up the AWB in Illinois, tens of thousands of Californians will be either stripped of their lawfully purchased possessions, or become instant felons. Forum rules prevent the use often the kind of profanity required to truly free my mind over this. California politicians are flat out nazis.rentz wrote:it will end up going to the supreme court eventually.
- Wed Mar 02, 2016 9:11 am
- Forum: General Legislative Discussions
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I was so POed that I missed the part about committee......but it WILL pass. There simply aren't enough conservative/libertarian votes left in the state.Bladed wrote:This is certainly unfortunate, but passing out of committee is not the same as passing "into law." According to the linked article, they're now headed to another committee, so there is still time for the great (but not as great as it used to be) state of California to stop them.The Annoyed Man wrote:Apologize is this isn't the correct forum.....
https://www.firearmspolicy.org/alerts/a ... gun-bills/If I still lived in Crapifornia, the first one outlaws all of my ARs, my SCAR, and my beautiful 1943 Inland M1 Carbine. the second one also outlaws all of them. The third would have made me a felon many times over.The bills that passed this morning were:
AB 1663: will expand the assault weapons ban to include semi-automatic centerfire rifles capable of accepting detachable magazines, including ALL “Bullet Button” or mag-locked firearms, as well as many curio and relics like the M1 Carbine and other similar firearms.
AB 1664: will ban all semi-automatic rifles that are equipped with a bullet button or other mag-locking device.
AB 1674: will make it a crime to attempt to purchase more than one firearm of any type within a 30-day period and delete the private party transaction exemption to the 30-day prohibition.
I hate that state.
- Wed Mar 02, 2016 12:46 am
- Forum: General Legislative Discussions
- Topic: New California AWB passes into law.
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New California AWB passes into law.
Apologize is this isn't the correct forum.....
https://www.firearmspolicy.org/alerts/a ... gun-bills/
I hate that state.
https://www.firearmspolicy.org/alerts/a ... gun-bills/
If I still lived in Crapifornia, the first one outlaws all of my ARs, my SCAR, and my beautiful 1943 Inland M1 Carbine. the second one also outlaws all of them. The third would have made me a felon many times over.The bills that passed this morning were:
AB 1663: will expand the assault weapons ban to include semi-automatic centerfire rifles capable of accepting detachable magazines, including ALL “Bullet Button” or mag-locked firearms, as well as many curio and relics like the M1 Carbine and other similar firearms.
AB 1664: will ban all semi-automatic rifles that are equipped with a bullet button or other mag-locking device.
AB 1674: will make it a crime to attempt to purchase more than one firearm of any type within a 30-day period and delete the private party transaction exemption to the 30-day prohibition.
I hate that state.