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by The Annoyed Man
Tue Sep 20, 2016 2:27 pm
Forum: Rifles & Shotguns
Topic: M&P 15/22s Banned At Appleseed Events After Out Of Battery and “Run Away” Discharges
Replies: 42
Views: 12535

Re: M&P 15/22s Banned At Appleseed Events After Out Of Battery and “Run Away” Discharges

parabelum wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:
parabelum wrote:I've only heard of slamfires with military rifles using civilian ammo, mostly garands with modern ammo. Not very common though, but it is definitely worth a ban until it is made safe if I owned the range.
With Garand, at least you know that this might happen with civilian modern ammo. You use surplus or Garand ammo and problem solved (still practice extreme caution of course).

I would suspect that many buy these .22s for their kids to plink with, making it even more dangerous when you have this sort of malfunction.

So, yes. I'd ban them until they (s&w) get this figured out.
My only slam fires were experienced with a Bushmaster 24" Varminter I no longer own, shooting a really hot hunting handload a friend gave me to try out, which he had enjoyed great success with while deer hunting. I don't know the powder charge, but it was pushing a 65 grain Gameking at about 3100 fps from his 20" barreled rifle. I was with him on one such hunt when he took a doe from 90 yards out, right through the back of the head, with the bullet exiting between her eyes. She went instant rag doll. That seemed like a pretty effective round, and so I was eager to try some in my rifle to see how they shot. One trigger pull produced a quick bangbangbang, followed by a FTF which arrested the process. The guy to my left was looking over at me with saucer eyes.

I dropped the mag and set the rest of that ammo aside. :lol:
So it became Bushmaster full auto just like that :lol:: :fire
Exactly. And it was around that time that US v. Olafson was being litigated in which a dude goes to prison because his gun allegedly slam fired. I wasn't having any of that!
by The Annoyed Man
Tue Sep 20, 2016 12:04 pm
Forum: Rifles & Shotguns
Topic: M&P 15/22s Banned At Appleseed Events After Out Of Battery and “Run Away” Discharges
Replies: 42
Views: 12535

Re: M&P 15/22s Banned At Appleseed Events After Out Of Battery and “Run Away” Discharges

parabelum wrote:I've only heard of slamfires with military rifles using civilian ammo, mostly garands with modern ammo. Not very common though, but it is definitely worth a ban until it is made safe if I owned the range.
With Garand, at least you know that this might happen with civilian modern ammo. You use surplus or Garand ammo and problem solved (still practice extreme caution of course).

I would suspect that many buy these .22s for their kids to plink with, making it even more dangerous when you have this sort of malfunction.

So, yes. I'd ban them until they (s&w) get this figured out.
My only slam fires were experienced with a Bushmaster 24" Varminter I no longer own, shooting a really hot hunting handload a friend gave me to try out, which he had enjoyed great success with while deer hunting. I don't know the powder charge, but it was pushing a 65 grain Gameking at about 3100 fps from his 20" barreled rifle. I was with him on one such hunt when he took a doe from 90 yards out, right through the back of the head, with the bullet exiting between her eyes. She went instant rag doll. That seemed like a pretty effective round, and so I was eager to try some in my rifle to see how they shot. One trigger pull produced a quick bangbangbang, followed by a FTF which arrested the process. The guy to my left was looking over at me with saucer eyes.

I dropped the mag and set the rest of that ammo aside. :lol:
by The Annoyed Man
Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:24 pm
Forum: Rifles & Shotguns
Topic: M&P 15/22s Banned At Appleseed Events After Out Of Battery and “Run Away” Discharges
Replies: 42
Views: 12535

Re: M&P 15/22s Banned At Appleseed Events After Out Of Battery and “Run Away” Discharges

Wow. I own one, but have never had this problem. Has someone determined if ammo was a possible cause? I've had an AR15 slamfire when shooting some pretty hot handloads someone gave me, but nary a problem with the M&P15-22

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