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by The Annoyed Man
Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:49 pm
Forum: 2019 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: HB 349 - Make bump stocks illegal in Texas
Replies: 30
Views: 2516

Re: HB 349 - Make bump stocks illegal in Texas

Zoo wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:42 pm
If my car fails the emission test and Texas refuses to renew the registration, should the State of Texas be required to pay compensation?
No, but if they do that, they are not requiring you to either destroy or turn in the vehicle. You continue to own and possess it. You just can't drive it. And, you can remedy the situation by paying for whatever needs doing to pass the emissions test, and then get the vehicle registered and begin driving it again. If modifications are required, it is still a vehicle when you’re done. Apple to oranges, my man. Under the proposed rule:
  1. You don’t get to retain ownership of the stock.
  2. You must either turn it in or destroy it.
  3. You can’t register it.
  4. You can’t modify it to bring it into compliance with the law in any way that will keep it a bumpstock.
  5. Ergo, you are being deprived of a legally purchased bumpstock, without compensation or relief under due process.
Like I said, Apples to oranges.

When the 18th Amendment and the Volstead Act were passed, individual ownership of spirits was not illegalized. You couldn’t traffic in spirits. You couldn’t make more for commercial sale. But you COULD make small amounts for personal consumption....200 gallons/year of beer or wine, IIRC. You could buy booze from drugstores with a doctor’s prescription. In fact, a prominent gentlemen’s club in NYC set about purchasing a 5 year supply of booze for its wealthy members before the act went into effect, figuring that a 5 year supply would get them through to repeal. As long as the club had their supply, its members could drink as much as they wanted because they weren’t paying for it directly. It belonged to the club, and was legally purchased before the law went into effect.

The proposed ATF reg is NOTHING like prohibition either.
by The Annoyed Man
Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:59 pm
Forum: 2019 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: HB 349 - Make bump stocks illegal in Texas
Replies: 30
Views: 2516

Re: HB 349 - Make bump stocks illegal in Texas

srothstein wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 3:30 pm
A better question would be if it would constitute a taking under the Fifth Amendment requiring the government to pay you fair market value for it. I think it would.
I predict that is what will end up being decided by SCOTUS - not whether or not gov’t has the authority to ban/control a certain type of firearm, that’s already been settled (incorrectly in my opinion) - but whether or not gov’t can take property that WAS legally purchased in good faith, without compensation for the value of the property taken.
by The Annoyed Man
Fri Nov 30, 2018 6:54 pm
Forum: 2019 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: HB 349 - Make bump stocks illegal in Texas
Replies: 30
Views: 2516

Re: HB 349 - Make bump stocks illegal in Texas

Charles L. Cotton wrote:
Sun Nov 18, 2018 9:55 pm
A SCOTUS case from the Roosevelt era upheld a conviction of a farmer for growing wheat to feed his family and violating federal wage and price control laws. The Court held that the Commerce Clause was triggered even though the farmer's wheat had not traveled in interstate commerce. Had he not grown his own wheat he would have had to buy food. This impacted interstate commerce.

I know, the case sucked!
Chas.
Gosh, I had forgotten all about that case. No wonder Pelosi/Obama had no problem creating a federally mandated stream of commerce in health insurance, and then requiring citizens to take part in it or face penalties.
by The Annoyed Man
Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:51 am
Forum: 2019 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: HB 349 - Make bump stocks illegal in Texas
Replies: 30
Views: 2516

Re: HB 349 - Make bump stocks illegal in Texas

ScottDLS wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:07 am
Then they came for my finger, because it was pulling the trigger too fast. :shock:
Was that when you gave them the finger? I was wondering what had happened......

"rlol" "rlol" "rlol"
by The Annoyed Man
Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:15 pm
Forum: 2019 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: HB 349 - Make bump stocks illegal in Texas
Replies: 30
Views: 2516

Re: HB 349 - Make bump stocks illegal in Texas

By “echo triggers”, do you mean binary triggers?

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