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stroo wrote:A group of men in my church started a yearly shoot out on one of the members land. We call it the DSO. Now it is attended my men and young men from a number of churches in our denominations.

One of our former pastors had a LTC but didn't carry on the pulpit. However he knew that a number of us did carry in the congregation. He would always try, in private, to guess where I carried, but usually couldn't figure it out.

Our current pastor's wife asked if I carried in church and I told her I always carried. She let out a sigh of relief and thanked me for being there to protect her husband.

I used to pocket carry a lot in church but now I generally carry strong side OWB with my suit coat easily covering so no one really realizes it is there, even when I am leading part of the service.

Like Charles if someone in church asks if I carry, I tell them I always carry which usually leads to a good conversation.

couzin wrote:

Oldgringo wrote:I see terms such as Steward, Elder and various Pastoral ranks mentioned throughout this thread. In our small FUMC, we have a Pastor and a Choir Director. What size and what denominations are y'all talkin' about that has all of these middle and upper management positions runnin' the show?

With all due respect, just askin'.....

We are Presbyterian - does not matter the size of congregation, the elected Elders for the most part rule the church through Session (the group of Elders headed up by the Clerk of Session - the Pastor is there to moderate and keep order (and he/she REALLY needs to do that on occasion). We do have congregational meetings to vote on some items, but for the majority of items, budget, undertakings, use of funds, etc., Session rules. The Pastor leads us but really does not have control over much at the church level, in fact, they are assigned to the church and are employed by the Presbytery. Above us is the Presbytery, above them is the Synod, and ruling all our actions is the General Assembly (God above all). I too long for the small wooden church of my youth where we had a "preacher" and not much else, and 'stuff' just got taken care of...

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He said that as a Steward of the church that he just wants to know where the guns are just in case or something like that.

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