TexasCHLforum.com

cyphertext wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 9:50 am

03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 7:41 am

Liberty wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 6:16 am

03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:52 am It sure sounds like HEB is anti 2nd amendment. We have one opening in Plano soon. I will be skipping a visit to that grocery store.

If they were anti 2nd amendment, they would post a 30.07 sign also. I think they a just "Karen" appeasers.

There are a couple of restraunts that I won't go to because of their Dress code. I hate wearing neckties. I won't go to nudist camps or beaches either. I don't care for their dress codes.

No. they are anti gun. No getting around it. "Karen" has no clue what 30.05 means. None what so ever. "Karen" does not even read those signs. Claiming one is against constitutional carry IS anti second amendment. Whether they are honest with themselves or not. The second amendment has NO provision for special approval from the government.

You are correct that Karen may not know what the signs mean or even read the signs... But what HEB knows about Karen is that she freaks out at the sight of a firearm. HEB isn't in the gun business, they want to sell groceries to Karen so they ask their customers who carry firearms to just keep them concealed. But, with the new unlicensed carry, they don't have a way to post a sign to restrict open carry only, so they post the legal sign. If they were an anti gun company, they would post all the signs to keep all firearms, licensed or unlicensed out. See Zales Jewelers and Kay Jewelers for example.

Blackhorse1 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 8:03 am If they(HEB) were FOR. (2ND. AMENDMENT) they wouldn't even have a sign either way. That's not saying the workers all agree either way, but Headquarters speaks for them.

Liberty wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 6:16 am

03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:52 am It sure sounds like HEB is anti 2nd amendment. We have one opening in Plano soon. I will be skipping a visit to that grocery store.

If they were anti 2nd amendment, they would post a 30.07 sign also. I think they a just "Karen" appeasers.

There are a couple of restraunts that I won't go to because of their Dress code. I hate wearing neckties. I won't go to nudist camps or beaches either. I don't care for their dress codes.

cyphertext wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 9:13 pm

K.Mooneyham wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 7:06 pm
I would like to ask, are you a business owner who plans on using "gunbuster" signs?

Nope, just think that for unlicensed carry with no training requirements to cover all of the legalese, the best approach would be the simplest solution using something that everyone can understand.

And I don't want to see yet another big ugly sign that I am going to have to look at to see if it applies to me as a LTC holder. Like I said in the response to Scott... with 30.06, things were simple, one big ugly sign to look out for and I knew I couldn't carry. Throw in 30.07, not too bad, but now I have to actually look at the sign to see if it applies to me, as they appear very similar at a glance. Now add yet another sign with 1" lettering, in both English and Spanish.

ScottDLS wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 6:05 pm

cyphertext wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 5:06 pm ...

I have an LTC and will continue to keep it, so I really don't care. But I think that if you have the constitutional right to carry with little state requirements and regulations (which I agree with) then the same should apply to a business owner on his signage to keep UNLICENSED carry out of their establishment. Many of these unlicensed carriers are not going to research the law and understand what applies to them and what doesn't...
they just heard the soundbite on the news that they can carry without a license. And I can't believe that you guys claim that you don't understand what is meant by that picture. It boggles the mind ... and for ScottDLS to continue to argue that it doesn't convey the owners wishes is absolutely ludicrous! If the owner, or his agent acting on his behalf, posts any sign in his business common sense would dictate that the owner supports what that sign states. No guns, no smoking, no soliciting, ... etc. These are all posted by an owner of a business (or their authorized agent) as policies that they expect patrons to follow when in their business.

Why do you believe that a sticker with a pictogram, should legally be able to bar entry to non-LTC, when you said yourself as a LTC you would carry past such a sign? Don't you respect the owner's wishes? Or do you get to disregard the owner's wishes because you have a LTC?

chasfm11 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:09 pm I've been looking in my area. We have our share of 06 and 07 with a many of the latter disappearing over time. I started with the usual suspects who post to see if there are any new signs but cannot find any. I might be looking at the wrong businesses but I expect that, if they were going to put up new signs, they would be up by now.

I've also looked to see if there are gun buster or other similar new signs and cannot find new ones of those either. I don't remember the last time that I saw anything that looks like a general "no guns" sign in Texas.