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by 03Lightningrocks
Sun Feb 07, 2010 5:18 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Apartment firearm security
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Re: Apartment firearm security

drjoker wrote:
03Lightningrocks wrote:If I were in a second story or higher apartment, I would probably concentrate on hardening the entry.
Dude, remember that apartments have lots of other people who will have key access to your apartment such as; handyman, a/c guy, exterminator, landlord, etc. Even if they do not steal, if they spot a safe, they could tell their friends who'll tell their friends and one of them could be a thief. Just store all your guns (other than your daily carry gun) with trusted family members and friends who have a bolted down gun safe. Keep your daily carry gun with you at all times. Just do some favors for your friends and family every once in awhile to show your appreciation. I "hardened" my dad's and my best friend's house with ballistic glass and steel door/doorways to prevent theft of my their guns (since I own zero guns as I've given them all to them).

Once, I felt that my apartment didn't feel right. I couldn't put my finger on it, but it just didn't feel right. So, I left the webcam on my computer on and left the apartment. I came home and hit fast forward/play. To my surprise, the handyman came inside and my dog was wagging his tail. The handyman slipped my dog a treat sat down and watched my TV. Then, he ate a cookie from my cookie jar and left! :eek6

I brought it to the attention of the landlord and she said that it is just procedure to check up on the place once a month, "Don't worry." The truth was that he stopped by every day to enjoy my roommate's big screen TV.

Bottom line, don't store anything of value at an apartment.
I wasn't thinking about the maintenance guy angle. I haven't had the pleasure of apartment living for about 28 years. Now I remember why... :smilelol5: . I would be more worried about the maintenance crew ripping me off than some random burglar.
by 03Lightningrocks
Sun Feb 07, 2010 1:42 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Apartment firearm security
Replies: 12
Views: 1917

Re: Apartment firearm security

JimR wrote:Ok, so we're in an apartment for the time being. Probably at least a year or more. I've just started to acquire enough firearms that I'm wanting a safe for all but our carry pieces. Maybe I'm wrong but I can't see having one of those monster heavy safes in an apartment. Additionally, one of the cheaper light safes that would need to be mounted to the wall won't work for obvious reasons.

Anyone have any ideas for gun safes in an apartment? Are there safes that aren't super heavy but too heavy for the average punk criminal to haul off?

Thanks in advance.
If your in a first floor apartment a heavy safe would be no problem. Of coarse you can't bolt it to the floor, but there are other things you can do to make hauling it off a chore. Load a few hundred pounds of ammo in the bottom of it. Ammo is heavy and adds up real quick. Buying a light weight safe is better than nothing, but realize that it is pretty easy to pry the door open on most of those. it will slow them down but not for very long.

If your on a second story or higher unit...you may be limited on what you can do. I am not sure how much weight the floor in an apartment can support. My safe weighs in excess of 1200 lbs empty. Loaded with guns and other goodies, it may weigh 2000 lbs. I can't imagine the average floor handling that kind of weight concentrated on a 36 inch x 36 inch area, not even in a house.

If I were in a second story or higher apartment, I would probably concentrate on hardening the entry. Typically, there is only one point of entrance in a second story unit. They aren't going to come in with a ladder to access the windows. They make door alarms that can be quite the noise makers...heck...rig it to a speaker and point the speaker toward a spot that will get attention if it goes off. Maybe get one of the high decibel sirens that actually make it hard to function while it is going off. Burglars don't like noise and light...either one can get them noticed.

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