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Paladin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 08, 2023 2:42 pm It is easy to argue that FBI Nazi groups like Atomwaffen and NSM serve as inspiration for groups like ANTIFA. So by creating/funding radical hate groups, the FBI is actually spawning other radical groups. The quickest solution to the problem is to defund the FBI.

Grayling813 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2023 7:33 pm

Paladin wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2023 5:23 pm FBI Informant Created One Of Largest Nazi Groups In American History

An FBI informant cofounded one of the largest and oldest neo-Nazi organizations in U.S. history: the National Socialist Movement, a group connected to numerous crimes and violent events, including the deadly 2017 Charlottesville “Unite the Right” rally, according to previously unpublicized records reviewed by Headline USA.

According to White, the FBI took control of the NSM as early as 2004, and likely much earlier. White said in his FOIA lawsuit that the FBI and ATF “would use the National Socialist Movement to hold phony ‘white supremacist’ rallies.”

....Prison inmate White, who was also attended the Orlando rally, said in his 2020 declaration that he now believes the majority of Nazi demonstrators were informants.

“I estimate that about three of the twenty to twenty-five persons who participated were not federal agents: myself, Laura Sennett, aka Isis, and an undercover reporter for a local paper,” White said.

And how many “good” FBI and ATF agents resigned in protest and spoke out against this?

There are no "good" FBI or ATF agents. It is fantasy to believe there are.

Does anyone believe this guy was a real threat to anyone? I sure don't. I also don't trust any federal agency to tell the truth. They are all tasked with keeping the people down by the government overlords. Somewhere I read that the guy had actually made some threats, not just inferred them. Again, who really knows with the corrupt law enforcement agencies. And I doubt we will ever know the real story.

Paladin wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:04 am

03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 3:52 pm

philip964 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 3:48 pm https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/man-kil ... =102138966

Man who said he was getting his gilly suit out and dusting off his rifle on social media was killed in his home by FBI agents serving him a warrant.

They tend to take threats against the president seriously. Even a someone like Joe Biden.

https://www.usasupreme.com/brand-new-vi ... an-arrest/

He was 75 years old, 300lbs, and walked with a cane.

I don't think they care about that stuff. I saw a news clip last night and apparently he did some kind of stand off with them before being killed. That is the story anyway.

philip964 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 3:48 pm https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/man-kil ... =102138966

Man who said he was getting his gilly suit out and dusting off his rifle on social media was killed in his home by FBI agents serving him a warrant.

They tend to take threats against the president seriously. Even a someone like Joe Biden.

mayor wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:58 am

Paladin wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:43 am Despite their best efforts to hide in the shadows, the extremists have been noticed:

GOP Rep. Barry Moore: FBI, DOJ Think They Know Better than Voters, ‘We Need to Pull the Plug’ and Clean up Those Agencies

Sounds like Rep. Barry Moore is on the right track!

I've lost faith in the entire system. Nothing will become of any government agency's weaponization.

I agree. Politicians have weaponized the 3 letter agencies against "We The People". Chosen high dollar/high value criminals go completely unpunished while these agencies are used against perceived political opponents. If we aren't living out Orwell's 1984, we are as close to it as we can become.

PriestTheRunner wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 8:20 pm

03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 2:03 pm How many guys on this forum are sleeping through the take over by government of the people? Just curious. Please take offense if it applies!

Some of us have been ready to do something about it for quite some time.....
https://www.texaschlforum.com/viewtopic ... 2#p1219045

How many guys on this forum are sleeping through the take over by government of the people? Just curious. Please take offense if it applies!

srothstein wrote: ↑Sun Aug 28, 2022 8:24 pm

03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Sun Aug 28, 2022 5:45 pmIt is funny how things have changed since this forum began. We went from thinking law enforcement where somehow worth supporting, to realizing they are all jack booted Nazi's. What changed? Them? Or did we all wake up?

If it helps, I am a retired cop and still support law enforcement in general. I cannot support a lot of what I see going on these days, and I know it would never have been acceptable when I was active (retired in 2009). So yeah, law enforcement has changed.

I have not been a big fan of the FBI since at least the mid 1980's though, so that has just become more public. It seems like they have gotten worse about taking political sides, but that was because under J. Edgar they blackmailed everyone that he thought might be useful to him. Looking at it now in hindsight, they were just as politically motivated then too. The difference seems to have been that the sides they took were so overwhelmingly supported by the US public that it did not seem like a political hit job (anti-communism and anti-civil rights jump to my mind).

I was raised to respect law enforcement but unfortunately as I age I have nothing but total contempt for them. Especially the 3 letter branches. It is funny you brought up J Edgar. You are correct. He was the most corrupt FBI leader of all time.

It is sad because the rank and file Police Officers for the most part are simply trying to do their jobs. During Covid, most restaurants were closed. There was a Mexican food place in Plano that stayed open but used every other table. There was a table with four Plano Police officers eating across the restaurant. We put their tab on our company credit card without saying a word to them. That was during the time when everyone was hating on cops. The problems seem to be coming from the top of these organizations, not the bottom. The FBI flat out needs to be cleansed of all upper management. However it is done, it must happen.

Funny thing. I hate Donald Trump. I think he is a stanky Yankee not worthy of peeing on to put out the fire. I voted for him, TWICE. Why? To turn that Washington cesspool upside down! I knew he could not be bought and paid for! I wish we could get him elected again but I feel there are too many Trump haters. It pisses me off he did not cleanse the FBI and DOJ! He should have fired every darned one of them!

Rafe wrote: ↑Sun Aug 28, 2022 4:15 pm

crazy2medic wrote: ↑Sun Aug 28, 2022 3:57 pm another great reason to have a vault in a location that no one knows about. the story really struck me again as the comment that the fbi assumed if you have more 5k of stuff then you must be a criminal??? hmm lets search pelosis home and her husbands stuf?

Pelosi has that much in Refrigerators filled with Ice Cream

The absolute safest way to store something securely is to bury it on the grounds of a property owned by the Clintons.

It is funny how things have changed since this forum began. We went from thinking law enforcement where somehow worth supporting, to realizing they are all jack booted Nazi's. What changed? Them? Or did we all wake up?

crazy2medic wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 9:10 am

Grayling813 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:30 am

03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:59 am

crazy2medic wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 7:34 pm FBI has become the STASI
If I became President I'd purge the top three Echelons of the FBI

I agree. Fire the top 5000 FBI agents immediately. It won't happen because the FBI has dirt on every politician but we can always hope. Nazi oppression was used to allow Hitler to take control. Communist state police used the same techniques. WE now face oppression from our very own government and we just sit by while they solidify their power. Many on this very forum are never going to resist because they work under the false assumption that they will avoid the oppression and maintain their lifestyle. I bet dollars to donuts most of the very people who claim to be pro second amendment on this forum will buckle under like cheap suites. How many of you are willing to give up your life of luxury to defend the god given right to be free? I bet very few!

So we're just waiting for Kristallnacht 2 to happen?

It is already happening! Just in a more "civilized" form. One can no longer look at law enforcement, at any level, as there to protect but instead. there for further government suppression. As Rothstein so eloquently pointed out. Younger law enforcement personal are from a brain washed generation, taught to follow the orders of the state over the pledge to honor the constitution. It is almost time to fly the United States Flag in the upside down position. Our country is losing the battle. We won't lose the war.

crazy2medic wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 7:34 pm FBI has become the STASI
If I became President I'd purge the top three Echelons of the FBI

I agree. Fire the top 5000 FBI agents immediately. It won't happen because the FBI has dirt on every politician but we can always hope. Nazi oppression was used to allow Hitler to take control. Communist state police used the same techniques. WE now face oppression from our very own government and we just sit by while they solidify their power. Many on this very forum are never going to resist because they work under the false assumption that they will avoid the oppression and maintain their lifestyle. I bet dollars to donuts most of the very people who claim to be pro second amendment on this forum will buckle under like cheap suites. How many of you are willing to give up your life of luxury to defend the god given right to be free? I bet very few!

TxRVer wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 9:19 am The current FBI is more corrupt than J. Edgar.

The leftist loons who voted for Biden think this garbage is real cool since the government is terrorizing Trump supporters. They are too ignorant to realize if they allow it when it happens to their perceived enemies, it will be their turn next.