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by 03Lightningrocks
Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:26 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Would you support this gun private purchase restriction
Replies: 81
Views: 3066

Re: Would you support this gun private purchase restriction

DEB wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:57 pm
mrvmax wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:25 am
anygunanywhere wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:08 am
mrvmax wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:20 am
When the constitution is changed then we can go with your suggestions, until then it violates our rights (and common sense). Your suggestions seem to show that you don’t fully understand the underlying issue and I don’t think it will make a dent in lowering gun crime. More laws will not stop the problem, we can remove every gun in our country and people will still use cutlery, vehicles, chemicals, airplanes etc.
Even if the Constitution is changed I will still have the right to keep and bear arms. God gave me that right, not man.
Well that depends on your definition of God and what God you are referring to. If you are Christian and adhere to the Bible you would be contradicting God’s law by disobeying our countries laws concerning firearms. Paul covered that in the book of Romans, I cannot speak for other religions.
That statement would sure be fun to debate, but unfortunately on this Forum we cannot, as we would have to really go in depth within the Bible and the thread would then qualify as purely religious. So, disagree with your take on that one statement within Romans, as it needs to counterbalanced with statements in other areas within the Bible. Otherwise the American Revolution would have been argued in the Pulpits as being sinful and it simply would not have occurred.
Even the disciples open carried the weapon of that day. Was it Peter who whacked off the ear of a Roman soldier while they were taking Jesus down?
by 03Lightningrocks
Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:38 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Would you support this gun private purchase restriction
Replies: 81
Views: 3066

Re: Would you support this gun private purchase restriction

ghostrider wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:23 pm
one only has to look around on this small planet to see the effect of 'compromise' in foreign countries, with little (or opposite) effect on crime:

England, Australia, Canada, California, etc.

and of course, when it does not reduce crime, its followed by more calls for yet more restrictions.

Firearms ownership in Canada is strictly regulated (though they recently gave up on long gun registration as overly expensive & effectively useless) and yet Toronto now has a homicide rate higher then NYC:

https://www.blogto.com/city/2018/06/tor ... -new-york/
This thread is analogous to being surrounded by the enemy in a war zone and thinking that executing one of your own and throwing the dead body out will make the enemy go away. No surrender, no negotiating. We need to stand our ground. The anti gun crowd is after complete confiscation. They are simply after it in steps.
by 03Lightningrocks
Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:08 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Would you support this gun private purchase restriction
Replies: 81
Views: 3066

Re: Would you support this gun private purchase restriction

Truth is, it is a very sad statement that we have gun owners who claim to be supporters of the second amendment who are actually entertaining the idea of "giving up" something that the government has no right to take away. There should be NO GIVE at all. Not one thing discussed in this thread or Washington will keep a mass shooting from occurring. We darn well better all tighten up or we will be facing some hard choices of surrender or fight. Me... I will fight.
by 03Lightningrocks
Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:55 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Would you support this gun private purchase restriction
Replies: 81
Views: 3066

Re: Would you support this gun private purchase restriction

oljames3 wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:10 pm
SQLGeek wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:55 pm
Sad to see so many gun grabbing talking points coming from our side.
:iagree:
It is the old, "Well it doesn't affect me, so let them have it" type thinking. I know there are some gun owners that think they are in a special class and everyone else should have to meet their personal criteria. Even on this forum. What these particular firearm owners don't realize is that first they come for your neighbors, then they come for you.
by 03Lightningrocks
Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:45 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Would you support this gun private purchase restriction
Replies: 81
Views: 3066

Re: Would you support this gun private purchase restriction

TreyHouston wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:43 pm
This ends with everyone in the country having to see government phycologists yearly and being told what they can and cannot do. If you are deemed a threat, you are shipped off to a wood chipper! :thewave
Book- brave new world
Fargo? :mrgreen:
by 03Lightningrocks
Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:30 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Would you support this gun private purchase restriction
Replies: 81
Views: 3066

Re: Would you support this gun private purchase restriction

The problem is that nothing short of complete elimination of all firearms will ever be enough for the gun grabbers. The old saying of "Give them an inch and they will take a mile" applies here. As much as one would like to believe they will quit going for more, it is simply not reality. Universal background checks will do nothing to prevent the next mass shooting. Then the push will be for a complete ban on semi auto rifles. It will just continue from there until they have all our firearms.
by 03Lightningrocks
Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:07 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Would you support this gun private purchase restriction
Replies: 81
Views: 3066

Re: Would you support this gun private purchase restriction

Grayling813 wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:00 pm
philip964 wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 2:51 pm
thatguyoverthere wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 2:06 pm
Interesting.

Your suggestion is interesting, but I was more referring to my response to your question.

I had typed out a long well stated (IMHO) response and reasoning and my feelings about several related subjects. But after reflecting on what I had written, and considering today's climate, let me considerably edit my response to your question.

Here is my response: no.

:tiphat:
But it did solicit a better idea. Give private gun sellers access to the database.

Not mandatory but allow access.

I like that.

I will make that my suggestion to the politicians.

Thanks all!!
So out of all the answers of “no” you found a couple of gun control infringements you can live with and would offer to your elected officials as proof of your willingness to further compromise our rights?

For the record my answer is absolutely no. Compromising one thing after another is how we have ended up on the door step of losing our rights completely.
:iagree:

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