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03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 8:26 am

Excaliber wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 7:17 am

03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 12:32 am I said it earlier in this thread and I will say it again. This guy stopped his car, hopped out with a rifle and immediately started shooting. We are talking seconds here in a very unexpected scenario. Had any of us been standing close enough to be effective with our hand guns, our chances of getting shot were far greater than our chances of stopping this guy. First your mind has to process a very crazy situation. Then you have to process draw, aim and fire. All while still stunned by what is occuring. I am sure I would have tried but am not delusional enough to think the odds are in my favor. There are situations, such as in the church shooting, that was ended by a miraculous head shot, where innocent people are going to die. No matter what we do and no matter how successful we are at doing it. This is definitely one of those situations.

Thank God for the Police Officer who ended this situation before more innocent life was lost. that officer is a true hero. I am very anxious to find out exactly how he approached and was able to end this with that head shot.

It is disgusting that the leftist inspired press is promoting the absolutely ludicrous claims of this guy being a Mexican white supremist!

In a situation like this, position is everything.

An LTC a few feet away and in front of the shooter has really bad odds.

On the other hand, shooters don't have 360 degree awareness. Someone behind, to the side, or at a diagonal just out of his peripheral vision would have had an excellent opportunity to stop a madman. Even better, anyone with a vehicle who drove down the parking lane his car was in could have taken him out with finality and relatively little risk.

These are the kinds of things best thought out and filed away ahead of time so the plan will be there when you need it.

Excellent points. I have often thought about these very situations. I have wondered if my mind would first think it was an undercover cop until I saw him unloading on people. Would that split second hesitation cause my demise? I know there is nothing in my heart and sole to prevent me from trying to stop a gunman from killing people.

03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 12:32 am I said it earlier in this thread and I will say it again. This guy stopped his car, hopped out with a rifle and immediately started shooting. We are talking seconds here in a very unexpected scenario. Had any of us been standing close enough to be effective with our hand guns, our chances of getting shot were far greater than our chances of stopping this guy. First your mind has to process a very crazy situation. Then you have to process draw, aim and fire. All while still stunned by what is occuring. I am sure I would have tried but am not delusional enough to think the odds are in my favor. There are situations, such as in the church shooting, that was ended by a miraculous head shot, where innocent people are going to die. No matter what we do and no matter how successful we are at doing it. This is definitely one of those situations.

Thank God for the Police Officer who ended this situation before more innocent life was lost. that officer is a true hero. I am very anxious to find out exactly how he approached and was able to end this with that head shot.

It is disgusting that the leftist inspired press is promoting the absolutely ludicrous claims of this guy being a Mexican white supremist!