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Excaliber wrote:

Excaliber wrote:

johncanfield wrote:Okay, multilayer defense, I get that but rocks as the last layer? How do you distribute a pail of rocks in a crisis? I appreciate their thinking outside of the box but they need a better last layer.

Actually it's easy.

Secure and barricade the door with chairs, desks, etc. to make fast, direct entry more difficult and to force an intruder to struggle through the barriers in a small area.

Distribute the rocks and place throwers in positions at multiple angles to the door. Elapsed time: about 1 minute.

Chances of disabling the shooter: very good, although there may well be a few good guys shot. That beats everyone shot. Sometimes that's as good as it gets.

This is obviously not going to work when the first shot is fired in your room, but it's not a bad plan when the shooter has started elsewhere and may attempt to enter your room and the alternatives are doing nothing or going hand to hand.

Some prefer soup cans as the projectiles because of the damage the sharp lips can do.

Standard hardball baseballs work too.

Excaliber wrote:

johncanfield wrote:Okay, multilayer defense, I get that but rocks as the last layer? How do you distribute a pail of rocks in a crisis? I appreciate their thinking outside of the box but they need a better last layer.

Actually it's easy.

Secure and barricade the door with chairs, desks, etc. to make fast, direct entry more difficult and to force an intruder to struggle through the barriers in a small area.

Distribute the rocks and place throwers in positions at multiple angles to the door. Elapsed time: about 1 minute.

Chances of disabling the shooter: very good, although there may well be a few good guys shot. That beats everyone shot. Sometimes that's as good as it gets.

This is obviously not going to work when the first shot is fired in your room, but it's not a bad plan when the shooter has started elsewhere and may attempt to enter your room and the alternatives are doing nothing or going hand to hand.

johncanfield wrote:Okay, multilayer defense, I get that but rocks as the last layer? How do you distribute a pail of rocks in a crisis? I appreciate their thinking outside of the box but they need a better last layer.

AndyC wrote:Yeah. As any security person will tell you, defense in depth is far more successful than relying on one layer alone.

Take Down Sicko wrote:If a student slings a rock at an active shooter and misses then surely he would become an instant target. Adding LEO's and arming teachers is the best solution in my opinion.