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by mrvmax
Wed Nov 01, 2017 4:44 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Gun rights for a Felon?
Replies: 66
Views: 18419

Re: Gun rights for a Felon?

ScottDLS wrote:
1911 10MM wrote:
MechAg94 wrote:
1911 10MM wrote:I was unaware a dishonorable discharge removed gun rights. Can someone cite a source for this information?
It is one of the questions on the 4473 form to buy a gun.
You are correct just never thought much about it. Thinking about now I guess it makes sense just never put two and two together.
In order to receive a Dishonorable discharge you must be convicted of a felony grade offense by a court martial. It can not happen administratively so it technically requires being a convicted felon anyway.
That sounds like anyone with a dishonorable discharge deserved it and I might think that if I didn’t know four people that were railroaded. I know of one Air Force guy (I don’t know his final discharge but he was forced out on a trumped up sexual harassment charge in the early 90’s), another AF guy given a dishonorable discharge for a first offense who did something stupid but nowhere near a felony and two Army guys who were charged with things they didn’t do, the fact is that when you are enlisted you can get superiors that can ruin your life if they don’t like you. One Army guy I know ended up in Leavenworth and from what I know of the circumstances he was used as an example. I’ve seen too much abuse of power and rank during my short time in the military to believe everyone with a dishonorable discharge committed “felonies”. I’ve seen many “lesser” instances of higher ranking guys with a personal agenda ruin a persons career. I saw one Army guy kicked out of tech school by an instructor who didn’t like him, I trained along this guy and he was probably the sharpest one in the class but he made an instructor mad and that instructor failed him enough times that he was forced out of tech school.
I know I’m taking some liberty with what you posted but I want people to understand an opposing opinion of a dishonorable discharge from my first hand experiences.
by mrvmax
Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:00 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Gun rights for a Felon?
Replies: 66
Views: 18419

Re: Gun rights for a Felon?

I have not verified the story here but it applies to the topic. I’m on my phone so I can’t figure out how to post the article so you will have to follow the link.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/mv5j ... hing-wrong
by mrvmax
Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:24 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Gun rights for a Felon?
Replies: 66
Views: 18419

Re: Gun rights for a Felon?

Gunner4640 wrote:
mrvmax wrote:To me I think it depends on the crime. If it was a violent crime then I don’t think so, even if they have we get their time. What would you do about someone with a dishonorable discharge from the military? They are banned too. I’m sure there have been young men who accepted a dishonorable discharge not knowing the consequences.
If a man received a dishonorable discharge from the military he did something very serious he doesn't deserve any gun rights in my honest opinion
You paint with too broad of a brush. I know someone offered a general discharge due to having some financial problems as a lower ranking enlisted guy. His superior did not like him and was trying to force him out. He was told to accept the general or he could fight it and if he lost he would get a dishonorable discharge. Pretty harsh for having too much debt and it doesn’t fit what you stated.
by mrvmax
Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:58 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Gun rights for a Felon?
Replies: 66
Views: 18419

Re: Gun rights for a Felon?

To me I think it depends on the crime. If it was a violent crime then I don’t think so, even if they have we get their time. What would you do about someone with a dishonorable discharge from the military? They are banned too. I’m sure there have been young men who accepted a dishonorable discharge not knowing the consequences.

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