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Ruark wrote:

When is it ever wrong to fight for the Constitution?

This is an elegant statement, but one does not generate change and progress with such global, lofty sloganeering, no matter how "right" it is. You have to deal with reality and the real world, and how it works, not how you think it should be or how you think it should work. This constant, endless whining and trumpeting about "my sekkunt 'mendment rytes" is a good example. Everybody's heard it a million times; they're tired of hearing it and will shut down the minute they do.

Simple question: We have a super majority in the 3 branches of Texas Government. What is the excuse not consider a Pro-gun bill such as 560?
Please looking forward for your thoughts.

Charles L. Cotton wrote:This is for folks who think there is a better, more efficient and successful, way to get pro-gun legislation passed. How would you do it? Don't give me generalities like "don't compromise," or "demand that all Republicans . . .," tell me precisely what steps will be successful at passing everything we want to pass. BTW, also list your experience and track record at passing legislation in Texas, so we can evaluate your opinions in light of your credentials.

Chas.

Chas.

No one is questioning your credentials or your efforts in promoting the 2ndA rights
However, we have a super majority in the 3 branches. What is the excuse not consider a bill such as 560?

1) Permit-less carry? It was not a priority for CHLers, and I still value in CHL Know-the-law, shooting proficiency etc. We build a reputation that CHLers are the safest armed/unarmed community and the most law-abiding folks. I highly value such reputation and I do not want to see it diluted by some new-bees and see-me-yahoos.

2) Lowering CHL fees to $8 per year is nice, but is that enough?

3) Addressing the noise suppressors issue if it came out of NFA-3. The prohibition of Texas could be just un-enforced if suppressers get out of NFA-3, isn't the case?

As for your question about the Agenda of Pro-2ndA bills

1) Quantify meaningful 2ndA rights to be restored.
2) Make and promote those rights to restored
3) Rally the base and fire up support
4) Get said bills passed
5) Enjoy and rejoice

Rinse, and repeat.

RossA wrote:To those who say that we should not have wasted time fighting for Constitutional carry, may I ask one simple question?
When is it ever wrong to fight for the Constitution?
And don't even give me your answer to that question. Go to a veteran's cemetery and tell them why it's silly to fight for the Constitution.
I took an oath as a young man to defend the Constitution. I never asked to be relieved of that oath.

Anti-guns folks believe that all your constitutional rights can be restricted. My right to Freedom is NOT, my right for life is NOT, My right to protect self and loved one is NOT.

There so many politicians who got your vote and would sell you for political gain or as a prevention of loss of political influence.
One can claim, that TX legis has some 900 more bills to consider and so many will die as well, I would respond: "Weed the chaff, manage your time wisely". At the beginning of the session, the legis was taking adjournments and now it the crunch time. Crunch time for what? To crunch and squash as many bills as possible.

Yeah, I got $6 per year discount on TLC

parabelum wrote:To me, from my vantage point, it appears that "our" side is playing defense heavily right now.

It is beyond frustrating.

At the State level, we control everything from the Governor to the House and Senate chambers. Yet, the maggots on the other side have put "us" on the heavy defense spectrum level.

Imagine where this will go when Libs gain control. And they will, given the shift in demographics and influx of Libs from Lib States.

So, for me, that's the crux of the issue behind the frustration. I get the benefits of being a good statesman and such, but, the time window is getting very narrow, and we better get better at learning the game of offense, quickly.

We are getting played!

The number of pro-gun bill is down is the diagnosis of the ailment in TX legis. What is the medicine?

Ruark wrote:Looks like it's fried. Even if it got to the House floor, it would still need to go to the Senate committee, then go to the Senate floor, etc. and that's WITHOUT any amendments at all. Not going to happen.

I suspect that everybody knew 375/1911 had zero chance of passing, so pretending to support it was a "safe" way to appear pro-2A.

I will not mince words anymore.
This is how politicians screw you up! Why in the world the GOP elected representatives of us, the people, with supermajority in the 3 branches of the Texas government are "COWARDS".

I did not care about 1911, but I cared a lot about the HB 560.
TSRA/NRA has to re-form their endorsements and rating of the nominees for elections.

All we got this year, $6 yearly rebate on our LTC fees.

By next September, This Legis would scored for his "achievements" as per gun rights.