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by Beiruty
Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:48 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Houston we got a problem... Live Rd jammed
Replies: 41
Views: 8008

Re: Houston we got a problem... Live Rd jammed

couzin wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:34 pm I am late to the party - but the case bulge and the rim snapped off looks like you may overgassed and possibly underbuffered. The gas pressure starts moving the casing before it has had time to shrink after firing, sometimes causing the bolt to move and tear off a chunk of case rim. Maybe...
The case failed to chamber, the case rim was sheared when I was trying to get the bolt carrier out.
by Beiruty
Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:27 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Houston we got a problem... Live Rd jammed
Replies: 41
Views: 8008

Re: Houston we got a problem... Live Rd jammed

I will have a further look with my bore snake cam
by Beiruty
Sun Apr 14, 2019 4:04 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Houston we got a problem... Live Rd jammed
Replies: 41
Views: 8008

Re: Houston we got a problem... Live Rd jammed

Bitter Clinger wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2019 3:41 pm
Beiruty wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2019 3:15 pm
The Annoyed Man wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2019 2:09 pm
Beiruty wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:41 am
kayt00 wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:51 am
Beiruty wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:46 pm Update:
Use science, a few sec of super chilled compressed "air in a can", sprayed on the case head, made the mission way easier. One bang and it just came out.
Photos:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/8uKwduy1N7Wop ... 13OHfLBs5o
Chamber was polished too, too much black stuff came out
Photos:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Z83ZGuc72GQoV ... 90NDHJhJJ0
Because science, glad that worked out. Any idea what caused the problem?
This is why it did not chamber:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/YBMcuyALqRo5XbJJ7
Wow! That bulge on the shoulder is alarming. Did you give the chamber a good cleaning? Also, any ideas of what caused the bulge? It might be useful to examine the next couple of dozen ejected cases to see if there’s any incipient signs of any problems
I will keep an eye. The case was like that when chambered. Why it was like that, who knows. It is a factory ammo. I cleaned and polished the chamber. See the photos in my above post.
In some of the photos from before polishing it almost looked like the chamber might have a micro-crack in it. Was that a concern as well?
https://texaschlforum.com/viewtopic.php ... 5&start=30
Yes, I saw that. I am not certain if it was a crack or just kind of "hair" from the cleaning pad. After Polishing there was nothing. I will double check.
by Beiruty
Sun Apr 14, 2019 3:15 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Houston we got a problem... Live Rd jammed
Replies: 41
Views: 8008

Re: Houston we got a problem... Live Rd jammed

The Annoyed Man wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2019 2:09 pm
Beiruty wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:41 am
kayt00 wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:51 am
Beiruty wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:46 pm Update:
Use science, a few sec of super chilled compressed "air in a can", sprayed on the case head, made the mission way easier. One bang and it just came out.
Photos:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/8uKwduy1N7Wop ... 13OHfLBs5o
Chamber was polished too, too much black stuff came out
Photos:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Z83ZGuc72GQoV ... 90NDHJhJJ0
Because science, glad that worked out. Any idea what caused the problem?
This is why it did not chamber:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/YBMcuyALqRo5XbJJ7
Wow! That bulge on the shoulder is alarming. Did you give the chamber a good cleaning? Also, any ideas of what caused the bulge? It might be useful to examine the next couple of dozen ejected cases to see if there’s any incipient signs of any problems
I will keep an eye. The case was like that when chambered. Why it was like that, who knows. It is a factory ammo. I cleaned and polished the chamber. See the photos in my above post.
by Beiruty
Sun Apr 14, 2019 3:13 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Houston we got a problem... Live Rd jammed
Replies: 41
Views: 8008

Re: Houston we got a problem... Live Rd jammed

mojo84 wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:48 am Would something like liquid wrench orPB Blaster have worked? Would that be damaging to the chamber?
I used quite good amount of super slick stuff can. The idea was to disable the primer/powder. I still had to use the chilling air in a can.
by Beiruty
Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:41 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Houston we got a problem... Live Rd jammed
Replies: 41
Views: 8008

Re: Houston we got a problem... Live Rd jammed

kayt00 wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:51 am
Beiruty wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:46 pm Update:
Use science, a few sec of super chilled compressed "air in a can", sprayed on the case head, made the mission way easier. One bang and it just came out.
Photos:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/8uKwduy1N7Wop ... 13OHfLBs5o
Chamber was polished too, too much black stuff came out
Photos:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Z83ZGuc72GQoV ... 90NDHJhJJ0
Because science, glad that worked out. Any idea what caused the problem?
This is why it did not chamber:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/YBMcuyALqRo5XbJJ7
by Beiruty
Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:46 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Houston we got a problem... Live Rd jammed
Replies: 41
Views: 8008

Re: Houston we got a problem... Live Rd jammed

Update:
Use science, a few sec of super chilled compressed "air in a can", sprayed on the case head, made the mission way easier. One bang and it just came out.
Photos:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/8uKwduy1N7Wop ... 13OHfLBs5o
Chamber was polished too, too much black stuff came out
Photos:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Z83ZGuc72GQoV ... 90NDHJhJJ0
by Beiruty
Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:25 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Houston we got a problem... Live Rd jammed
Replies: 41
Views: 8008

Re: Houston we got a problem... Live Rd jammed

The Annoyed Man wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:56 am
Beiruty wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:20 am
The Annoyed Man wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:21 pm It looks from your pictures as though the stuck round wasn’t fully seated to begin with.it may well be that the previous round left a piece of brass stuck in the chamber.
This is what I expect to find out soon. The 24" brass rod was not delivered yet. I suspected that the case neck was split and stayed in the chamber when the next round entered the chamber.
Beiruty, you might want to consider pulling the barrel off of the receiver if tapping on it with the brass rod with medium force doesn’t do it. Depending on how you have the upper clamped in a vise, if you have to start banging too hard on the stuck case with that rod, it could potentially damage the receiver. Removing the barrel, or at least clamping the barrel in the vise rather than using a receiver block to fix the upper in place while beating on the rod, would eliminate the possibility of receiver damage.

I'd be very careful about the use of heat on the barrel anywhere near the receiver extension. Another thought... if the bullet is already set back all the way into the case, maybe you could use a cleaning rod to keep the bullet pushed back while you dump any remaining powder charge out the front of the barrel. That way, if the primer does detonate, you’ll lessen the risks of bad juju.

Anyway, good luck with it, and let us know the final outcome.
I may have to remove the barrel if the round does not get out easily.
by Beiruty
Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:20 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Houston we got a problem... Live Rd jammed
Replies: 41
Views: 8008

Re: Houston we got a problem... Live Rd jammed

The Annoyed Man wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:21 pm It looks from your pictures as though the stuck round wasn’t fully seated to begin with.it may well be that the previous round left a piece of brass stuck in the chamber.
This is what I expect to find out soon. The 24" brass rod was not delivered yet. I suspected that the case neck was split and stayed in the chamber when the next round entered the chamber.
by Beiruty
Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:57 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Houston we got a problem... Live Rd jammed
Replies: 41
Views: 8008

Re: Houston we got a problem... Live Rd jammed

Unfortunately, the above tool's collet head does not fit inside the AR Chamber locking "teeth"
by Beiruty
Mon Apr 08, 2019 6:15 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Houston we got a problem... Live Rd jammed
Replies: 41
Views: 8008

Re: Houston we got a problem... Live Rd jammed

Skooter wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:49 pm Warm up the barrel/upper and then hit the brass with super chilled liquid spray (upside-down co2 Duster).
Great idea. Waiting on a 3/16" x 24" solid brass to be delivered.
by Beiruty
Sat Apr 06, 2019 9:11 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Houston we got a problem... Live Rd jammed
Replies: 41
Views: 8008

Re: Houston we got a problem... Live Rd jammed

kayt00 wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2019 8:08 pm Maybe try grabbing a can of office duster and flip it upside down so that you get the super chilled liquid when you spray it, at the same time try beating the snot out of the cleaning rod to knock it out. Might be able to shrink it enough to knock it out.
I will do that, and I will spray a lot WD-40 and keep it overnight barrel up. Then, I will get the super chilled liquid and cool the cased head before I pound it with the solid brass rod
by Beiruty
Sat Apr 06, 2019 7:43 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Houston we got a problem... Live Rd jammed
Replies: 41
Views: 8008

Re: Houston we got a problem... Live Rd jammed

All what I need is bolt head with 360 degrees collet extractor that grabs on the case and outer collet that pushes against the barrel face when a bolt is tightened from the other side of the said bolt head
by Beiruty
Sat Apr 06, 2019 6:58 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Houston we got a problem... Live Rd jammed
Replies: 41
Views: 8008

Re: Houston we got a problem... Live Rd jammed

rotor wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2019 5:25 pm Tap it out with a wooden dowel. Wear safety glasses and don't point either end of the barrel at anyone. Shouldn't be that hard to get out.
I have done that. The bullet was pushed back in the case and I can hear it when I rattle the upper. Wood rod broke. I used a brass cleaning rod and the one of its end was deformed.

I ordered a 3/16" x24" brass rod.
I contacted RRA for Tech Help and possible shipping to the factory for a fix or replacement if the chamber is damaged

It is stuck more than I expected

Here is a new photo: https://photos.app.goo.gl/WATPnJHY2v53WYGE9
by Beiruty
Sat Apr 06, 2019 11:02 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Houston we got a problem... Live Rd jammed
Replies: 41
Views: 8008

Re: Houston we got a problem... Live Rd jammed

Why no one designed a case puller similar to the RCBS stuck case remover from the die. Instead of of screw in the case, one can use a collet type extractor.

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