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03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2019 3:11 pm

Grayling813 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:12 am If the so called “loophole” is closed, the result will be that the likely minuscule number of criminals obtaining firearms at gun shows or from law abiding strangers would become even less. Criminals who are already selling firearms to other criminals are not going to start obeying another law.
It’s almost as if 40-50% of people have no ability to perform critical thinking anymore. Or are just too lazy and let politicians, the media, indoctrinators aka “educators” and activists do their thinking for them.

Just keep dolling out my free stuff and I’ll believe whatever you say.

People want to feel safe. Making all the big bad guns go away is an easy tonic for them. Like turning the light in the closet on at night so your child will see their is no monster in there.

^^^^^

Or at least be able to see what KIND of Monster it is...........;)

DynamicDan wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:20 pm No waiting periods. Period

I've given 'waiting periods' considerable thought over the years and can only come up with a single situation where it 'might' be beneficial and that is in cases where a person is distraught and wants to end their life (suicide) that very day.

It is possible that with the passage of time (3 days) a person could reconsider. But it remains a Mental Health issue really.

The same person could go buy a car and drive it into an overpass abutment, a firearm is just more affordable. Do we want waiting periods for car purchases because some folks use them to kill themselves?

I suppose a few crimes of passion (anger) are carried out infrequently by folks who purchase (legally) a firearm the same day and then use it ILLEGALLY in a crime. But these instances are fairly rare and do not constitute a reason to punish/impede you average law abiding citizen.

Anyone determined to commit a crime with a firearm will find a way to get one. The tool is not the problem, it's the evil inside of some people or their mental health that is the trouble.

TxRVer wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:29 pm

LDP wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:25 pm I might be misunderstanding the meaning and intent of the poll.
We already have a MANDATORY universal background check for purchasing firearms. It goes through the FBI.
In which case, the poll makes 0 sense to me. And it seems a little biased with not exactly an exhaustive list of options for answers.

The UBC calls for a background check for ALL gun purchases, including private sales. Some people even want background checks if you loan a gun to a friend at a gun range.

^^^^ Correct.

Which would put an unnecessary and undue burden on Law Abiding gun owners. What needs to happen is for officials to swiftly and severely prosecute and sentence violators...using the gun laws already in place.

LDP wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:25 pm I might be misunderstanding the meaning and intent of the poll.
We already have a MANDATORY universal background check for purchasing firearms. It goes through the FBI.
In which case, the poll makes 0 sense to me. And it seems a little biased with not exactly an exhaustive list of options for answers.

Not true of private sales (conducted by NON-FFL dealers).

It does apply to FFL's also to include a NICS check which actually can take up to 3 days:

To purchase a firearm from a federal firearms
licensee (FFL)—or gun dealer—individuals are required to complete the
Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) Form 4473, certifying
that they are not prohibited from purchasing or receiving a firearm under
federal or state law.

https://www.gao.gov/assets/700/694290.pdf

ATF Referred about 13,000 Firearms Denials to Its Field Divisions for Investigation in Fiscal Year
2017, of Which USAOs Have Prosecuted 12 Cases.

Yep a whole twelve!

Might not hurt to tighten things up a little in this case.

Different than 'expanding' background checks....I understand. I am NOT for that, but it wouldn't hurt things to vigorously ENFORCE some of the gun laws we already have in place.