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oljames3 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:31 pm

C-dub wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:21 pm That is true. I don’t remember the model numbers at the moment. 7377, 78, or 79 maybe. They both came with paddle and belt things, but since I like the more vertical draw I use the belt attachment instead of the paddle.

I asked Kore about that issue due to their reported stiffness and having the “kink” due to how my holsters and other pancake style holsters function. They unsurprisingly claimed they hadn’t had any issues reported.

The model number of a Safariland holster is almost useless to the consumer. The 7000 series indicates the material of the holster, in this case it is SafariSeven (7TS). The same holster will have a different model number simply because it was sold with a different belt attachment. ALS is the important part when describing the holster.

https://inside.safariland.com/education ... t-numbers/

In any case, you should not be able to feel your ALS holster move when drawing your pistol.

I am also not a fan of the Safariland paddle. I got one because that was what was sold with the holster.

I recently had a bad customer service experience with Kore and will not be buying any more of their products.

The issue isn’t with drawing since any upward movement would be negated by the thumbs pressure on the release, but you’re aware of that and the smoothness of the draw anyway. The “slop” is just in general and very small with the holster attachment. Maybe 1/8th of an inch at the most. The issue is more with the Blackhawk mag carrier. It is setup for a 1.75” belt with adjustment for 1.5” at all.

oljames3 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:04 pm

C-dub wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:58 am

oljames3 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:07 am C-dub, two questions: 1) Which Safariland holsters are you using and 2) Is this the Safariland belt loop you are using:

That is the belt attachment. It’s the same on both. I have not yet removed that little thing to expand for the wider belt.

I carry an S&W M&P9 M2.0 5" 17+1 in a Safariland 7TS ALS and two spare 16 round magazines on my belt. I started with the Kore leather gun belt. After 2.5 years, the inner stiffener broke in two places where it went through the Safariland belt loop. The shape of the belt loop puts extra strain in the belt.

I now us a Nexbelt gun belt and the Safariland 565BL belt loop. This loop allows the belt to slide straight through without kinking. https://safariland.com/products/model-5 ... e3e0&_ss=r.

Which holster are you using? With the ALS, the pistols lifts effortlessly out of the holster when drawing so there is no vertical movement of the holster.

That is true. I don’t remember the model numbers at the moment. 7377, 78, or 79 maybe. They both came with paddle and belt things, but since I like the more vertical draw I use the belt attachment instead of the paddle.

I asked Kore about that issue due to their reported stiffness and having the “kink” due to how my holsters and other pancake style holsters function. They unsurprisingly claimed they hadn’t had any issues reported.

oljames3 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:07 am C-dub, two questions: 1) Which Safariland holsters are you using and 2) Is this the Safariland belt loop you are using:

That is the belt attachment. It’s the same on both. I have not yet removed that little thing to expand for the wider belt.

Jusme wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:38 am I have some off brand 1-3/4" nylon belts, but not a Kore brand. It will depend a lot on your pants belt loops. For jeans and most tactical pants the belt loops are big enough to handle the wider belt. I do't have any experience with the garrison belt. My 1-1/2" Kore belt is more than sufficient for carrying my CZ SP-01 and two mags.

I would imagine that if it is anything like the other Kore products you will be happy.

Thanks for the input.

So far I am very pleased. I'm not considering the 1.75" belt just for extra support. The main reason I'm thinking about it is because I've noticed a little bit of vertical slop in the holster and mag carrier. Especially the mag carrier, which will accommodate a 1.75 belt and mostly eliminate the slop. The issue is that for both holsters, Safariland, I would have to remove a little piece to accommodate the wider belt and I think the tiny bit of slop would still be there. It would eliminate the slop on the mag carrier without much change for the handgun holster except for increased support.

Belt loops are not an issue on any of the pants/jean I have.

Good news / Bad news time.

The good news is I'm really liking my tan tactical Kore belt I got for Christmas. I was and still am amazed at the stiffness and support it provides. I only asked for one belt, but my wife liked the looks of the leather and also got one of those with a buckle that goes better with a nylon type tactical belt. So I put the buckle I asked for on the leather for now and plan on getting another 1.5" black tactical one for the buckle, but ordering it with a buckle that would be more appropriate for the leather. The issue is that I don't really wear any slacks the black leather belt goes with anymore and it is rated for half the weight of the "tactical" nylon belt. It is still a nice looking belt and maybe if I get something smaller than the two full size handguns I typically carry it will be just fine.

The bad news is that now I am unhappy with the two 5.11 belts I have. The stiffness is not as high as the tactical Kore belt with a rating of 8lbs. They feel about like the Kore leather belt. Their flexibility is very high compared to the Kore belts even the leather one. I went on a 4-day trip last weekend and took the tan Kore belt and the black 5.11 for different pants. The entire time I was wishing I had already purchased the black Kore tactical belt for two reasons. The stiffness is better on the Kore, but the convenience of the buckle system is far superior. For one size on 5.11 I have barely enough belt to go through the buckle and back to the velcro, but on the next size up there is so much that I have to tuck it back under the gun holster and that just doesn't work. So, I reverse the direction and put the overlap back to my left towards the spare mag carrier, which resides a little further back on my hip than I wear the handgun on the right. This also makes it more difficult to remove the handgun with holster in my truck if I must disarm and leave it. The Kore belt makes this very easy when required.

Now, I am planning on getting a third Kore belt, the black nylon tactical, but also considering trying out the 1.75" Garrison. Does anyone have this? How many of you wear a 1.75" belt for your EDC? I'm not sure about it yet since I have one and haven't worn it much in the past. However, I'm wondering if it wasn't due to the same reasons I've now discovered why I don't really like the 5.11 belts much anyway.

I have a question for all you Kore belt owners.

Who has one of their tan gun belts? Not leather. Is the material more of a lighter tan or does it start to lean a little darker toward an FDE like color? I have a good FDE 1.5" gun belt for now and am thinking about filling another niche with a Kore belt if it isn't too dark.