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by C-dub
Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:01 pm
Forum: Rifles & Shotguns
Topic: ATI Shotguns & extractors vs. ejectors
Replies: 48
Views: 9887

Re: ATI Shotguns & extractors vs. ejectors

Since I mentioned video in my other thread I thought I'd try out posting a short one here of H-dub hitting one with her OU Shotgun.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/lcUKI ... 1.20170627
by C-dub
Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:17 am
Forum: Rifles & Shotguns
Topic: ATI Shotguns & extractors vs. ejectors
Replies: 48
Views: 9887

Re: ATI Shotguns & extractors vs. ejectors

AndyC wrote:Sounds like we need to have a forum shoot again so Li'l Dub can show off some :)
I don't know about the "showing off" part, but I'm sure she/we would like to get back out with ya'll again.

I'll start another thread for this in a few weeks for after school is out for the summer. Otherwise, the dub's are too busy on the weekends with softball and work. Hey, anyone else notice that "work" is a four letter word? :evil2:
by C-dub
Sun Apr 09, 2017 8:47 am
Forum: Rifles & Shotguns
Topic: ATI Shotguns & extractors vs. ejectors
Replies: 48
Views: 9887

Re: ATI Shotguns & extractors vs. ejectors

puma guy wrote:
C-dub wrote:
puma guy wrote:
C-dub wrote:
puma guy wrote:C-dub, I was looking for some files on a flash drive and ran across this. A Skeet Shoot meet up at Elm Fork several years ago. Li'l dub doing the pulling and scoring for her future skeet instructor.

:thumbs2:

That's cool. Both of us have much longer hair now.
Did you ever look into the book I recommended? Bob Brister "Shotgunning: The Art and The Science"?
I forgot. I'll see if I can get it on my kindle.
There are several on Ebay right now for 99¢ with $4 shipping.
Got it. :thumbs2:
by C-dub
Fri Apr 07, 2017 5:58 pm
Forum: Rifles & Shotguns
Topic: ATI Shotguns & extractors vs. ejectors
Replies: 48
Views: 9887

Re: ATI Shotguns & extractors vs. ejectors

puma guy wrote:
C-dub wrote:
puma guy wrote:C-dub, I was looking for some files on a flash drive and ran across this. A Skeet Shoot meet up at Elm Fork several years ago. Li'l dub doing the pulling and scoring for her future skeet instructor.

Image
:thumbs2:

That's cool. Both of us have much longer hair now.
Did you ever look into the book I recommended? Bob Brister "Shotgunning: The Art and The Science"?
I forgot. I'll see if I can get it on my kindle.
by C-dub
Fri Apr 07, 2017 2:15 pm
Forum: Rifles & Shotguns
Topic: ATI Shotguns & extractors vs. ejectors
Replies: 48
Views: 9887

Re: ATI Shotguns & extractors vs. ejectors

puma guy wrote:C-dub, I was looking for some files on a flash drive and ran across this. A Skeet Shoot meet up at Elm Fork several years ago. Li'l dub doing the pulling and scoring for her future skeet instructor.

Image
:thumbs2:

That's cool. Both of us have much longer hair now.
by C-dub
Sun Jan 01, 2017 9:15 pm
Forum: Rifles & Shotguns
Topic: ATI Shotguns & extractors vs. ejectors
Replies: 48
Views: 9887

Re: ATI Shotguns & extractors vs. ejectors

Jusme wrote:Sounds like a great day. Her scores will improve with practice, and getting used to her new gun. But as long as she enjoys it and is enthusiastic, scores don't matter.

:cheers2:
Oh yeah. She shot an entire box of 25 just on station one and another on 7. Split another box on 2 and 6 and another box between 3-4-5, so not very much time spent in the middle. She didn't hit anything at 3-4-5 and I didn't want to to spend too much time there yet and get discouraged. Next time we'll spend more time on 2 and 6 and work out way to 3 and 5 once she's had more success at 2 and 6.
by C-dub
Sun Jan 01, 2017 8:41 pm
Forum: Rifles & Shotguns
Topic: ATI Shotguns & extractors vs. ejectors
Replies: 48
Views: 9887

Re: ATI Shotguns & extractors vs. ejectors

We got out to the range today and had a good time. She did good on stations 1, 2, 6, and 7, but had real trouble with 3, 4, and 5. We didn't even try 8. She's having trouble figuring out the lead on the middle stations. I'm telling her about how much the lead should be, but I think she's either having trouble judging that distance or just doesn't believe me and refusing to lead by that much. Hey, I remember when Andy was telling me how much to lead by and thought that was just crazy talk, but I kept increasing my lead until I hit one and then was amazed I hit anything.

She was doing really well on the end stations even hitting true doubles several times. She'll figure it out. We'll go out again next month.
by C-dub
Sat Dec 17, 2016 11:45 pm
Forum: Rifles & Shotguns
Topic: ATI Shotguns & extractors vs. ejectors
Replies: 48
Views: 9887

Re: ATI Shotguns & extractors vs. ejectors

Made the final payment on it yesterday, picked it up, wrapped it, and gave it to her today for her birthday. She was so excited!

Good thing I put down a payment on it and thankful the guy let me put it on layaway. He said 4 other people had come in looking for one after I put my money down on it. He said the 20ga versions are hard to get a hold of. 12's he can get easily, but not the 20's.

Now to take it out to shoot. We might go out next weekend or New Years day. We'll see what the weather is like.
by C-dub
Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:44 pm
Forum: Rifles & Shotguns
Topic: ATI Shotguns & extractors vs. ejectors
Replies: 48
Views: 9887

Re: ATI Shotguns & extractors vs. ejectors

bulletslap wrote:There are two inexpensive Turkish Shotguns I would consider, the Yildiz from Academy and the CZ branded guns.

I would also lean towards the extractors.
This will be my first O/U and after looking into all this I think I would have also preferred extractors, but this one is here and only a few blocks from my house. I think this will be just fine for getting her along a little further in skeet, trap, 5-stand, or even our new sporting clays course. We're starting off with skeet and we'll just see how she takes to that and if she wants to do anything else.
by C-dub
Mon Nov 21, 2016 12:17 pm
Forum: Rifles & Shotguns
Topic: ATI Shotguns & extractors vs. ejectors
Replies: 48
Views: 9887

Re: ATI Shotguns & extractors vs. ejectors

puma guy wrote:
C-dub wrote:After doing further research/education on these shotguns and O/U in general, I decided to go ahead and plunk down a deposit this morning. They will let me put it on layaway and if paid within 30 days in cash I get the same as cash price all at once. So, the first $200 is in.

A couple of the concerns I had were how stiff everything seemed, but after reading this morning, it seems that is all normal. Another concern I didn't even know about until this morning was that several complaints on just about any shotgun in this price range, not just ATI, was firing pin issues. However, after continuing to read I came to the conclusion that the two most commons causes of this issue was either not properly cocking the gun when breaking it open to reset the pins or a weak/malfunctioning spring that is supposed to retract the spring after firing to prevent the pins being broken when closing the gun after reloading. The later might seem to be the primary cause of most issues surrounding breakage of the pins.

Another thing I noticed what that there doesn't seem to be a lot of reviews from actual users of many of the ATI Cavalry line of shotguns. I will try and do our part here in this thread as we go forward. The plan is to put another $200 in after payday again in two weeks and then the final payment two more weeks after that. Then we should get out to fire it for the first time on New Years day since my club will be putting on its monthly 5-stand match. I will shoot that and then we'll go on down to the skeet area. I hope to give a report of that first day upon returning home that day.
Did you get the ejector or extractor model? BTW is this your daughter who pulled and kept score for us on the skeet shoots at Elm Fork?
The model they have had the ejectors and yes, she's my one and only.
by C-dub
Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:49 am
Forum: Rifles & Shotguns
Topic: ATI Shotguns & extractors vs. ejectors
Replies: 48
Views: 9887

Re: ATI Shotguns & extractors vs. ejectors

After doing further research/education on these shotguns and O/U in general, I decided to go ahead and plunk down a deposit this morning. They will let me put it on layaway and if paid within 30 days in cash I get the same as cash price all at once. So, the first $200 is in.

A couple of the concerns I had were how stiff everything seemed, but after reading this morning, it seems that is all normal. Another concern I didn't even know about until this morning was that several complaints on just about any shotgun in this price range, not just ATI, was firing pin issues. However, after continuing to read I came to the conclusion that the two most commons causes of this issue was either not properly cocking the gun when breaking it open to reset the pins or a weak/malfunctioning spring that is supposed to retract the spring after firing to prevent the pins being broken when closing the gun after reloading. The later might seem to be the primary cause of most issues surrounding breakage of the pins.

Another thing I noticed what that there doesn't seem to be a lot of reviews from actual users of many of the ATI Cavalry line of shotguns. I will try and do our part here in this thread as we go forward. The plan is to put another $200 in after payday again in two weeks and then the final payment two more weeks after that. Then we should get out to fire it for the first time on New Years day since my club will be putting on its monthly 5-stand match. I will shoot that and then we'll go on down to the skeet area. I hope to give a report of that first day upon returning home that day.
by C-dub
Sun Nov 20, 2016 10:33 am
Forum: Rifles & Shotguns
Topic: ATI Shotguns & extractors vs. ejectors
Replies: 48
Views: 9887

Re: ATI Shotguns & extractors vs. ejectors

AndyC wrote:
C-dub wrote:The new question is about the trigger selector. The website says it is singe selective. What exactly does that mean? I assume that whichever barrel is selected is the one that will be fired first, but does it have to be switched to fire the second barrel?
"Single selective" means that it's a single trigger - and that the first barrel to be fired can be selected. It doesn't have to switched to fire the second barrel, nope - just pull the trigger a second time.

ATI are just the importers, so who actually makes that specific model I couldn't say - and that always gives me a bad vibe that they're not up-front about it. Give them a call at 800-290-0065 and ask, but my money is on a Turkish manufacturer.
This one is only $545, so I'm not expecting the same kind of quality as my Benelli. That's good to hear about the selective trigger. I think I'll get this for her.
by C-dub
Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:22 pm
Forum: Rifles & Shotguns
Topic: ATI Shotguns & extractors vs. ejectors
Replies: 48
Views: 9887

Re: ATI Shotguns & extractors vs. ejectors

We went by and checked it out today and it seems to fit her just fine and she really liked it and was as surprised as I was with the lightness of its weight. I also think this model has the ejectors. I forgot to ask specifically, but I did see that it is an SVE model and when checking out the ATI website that means it has ejectors, not extractors.

Now, I have another question, but the original question still remains. The new question is about the trigger selector. The website says it is singe selective. What exactly does that mean? I assume that whichever barrel is selected is the one that will be fired first, but does it have to be switched to fire the second barrel?

The main original question has to do with anyone having any experience with this brand. So far, no one has claimed to know anything about ATI (American Tactical Import) shotguns.
by C-dub
Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:51 pm
Forum: Rifles & Shotguns
Topic: ATI Shotguns & extractors vs. ejectors
Replies: 48
Views: 9887

Re: ATI Shotguns & extractors vs. ejectors

Thanks everyone.

She's a strong athletic 5'5" 14y. Until shooting Grandpa's .410 she had no interest in shooting a shotgun. When I convinced how easy it was she tried it. Then I put some clays on the berm for her to bust. She liked that even more. So, breaking some flying ones last weekend was really exciting for her. I know she can handle a 20ga and I'm hoping the excitement and fun factor overrides the recoil difference from the .410.
by C-dub
Sat Nov 12, 2016 9:13 pm
Forum: Rifles & Shotguns
Topic: ATI Shotguns & extractors vs. ejectors
Replies: 48
Views: 9887

ATI Shotguns & extractors vs. ejectors

Good evening everyone.

Last weekend I took my daughter to our club and I introduced her to skeet shooting with her Grandpa's .410 shotgun. We mainly did the high and low house from the #1 and #7 spots. I wanted to make it as easy as possible starting off. It only took her 5 shots to break her first one. Soon after that she was breaking strings of 4-5 in a row. Before we got rained out she broke a few from the #6 spot.

I asked some of my friends at the club about over-unders that she might like and they suggested a 28ga. While it is an excellent choice for the similarity of its recoil to the .410 and similarity to the 20 or even 12 gauges breakability. However, 28 gauges themselves are not cheap and the ammo isn't either. So, I was thinking about a 20 gauge. I've thought about this before and came to the conclusion that due to her interest level and the somewhat considerable difference in the recoil between the .410 and a 20 gauge that she wouldn't like one. However, I'm reconsidering this after getting her on the skeet range and how much fun she had breaking some. And if worse comes to worse and she doesn't like the recoil, we still have the .410, and I still have my first O/U.

I visited a little shop nearby to see what they had and they have a nice little ATI 20 gauge O/U. It is light weight and easy to handle. I'm not sure which model, so I'm not sure if it has extractors or ejectors. Does anyone have any experience with this brand? What do ya'll think of them?

Also, what are ya'lls opinions of extractors vs. ejectors. I'm thinking that I'd lean towards extractors, but what do ya'll think? Or, if any of you have or have had daughters that used an O/U, what did they think when they first started?

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