TexasCHLforum.com

I dunno, it seems you're working pretty hard to deliberately misunderstand everything I've written.

Okay, I'm good with that. You've pretty much made my case.

Thanks!

Bitter Clinger wrote:

der Teufel wrote: The emails sent by Donald Trump Jr. say different. — http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40571914

Seriously? That is your source? APPLESAUCE.

(sigh) Did you even bother to look at the BBC article? All it contains are the emails sent received by Donald Trump Jr. There's little or no commentary. As Joe Friday used to say "Just the facts, Ma'am".

The emails contain such gems as:

On 3 June 2016, at 10:36, Rob Goldstone (publicist) wrote:
Good morning
Emin (Agalarov, Azerbaijani businessman and singer-songwriter) just called and asked me to contact you with something very interesting.
The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras (Agalarov, Azerbaijani-Russian businessman and public figure) this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and be very useful to your father.
This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin.

Did you catch the part where he tells Don T Jr. that "This is … part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump …" ?

A few days later —
On 7 June 2016, at 16:20, Rob Goldstone wrote:
Don
Hope all is well
Emin asked that I schedule a meeting with you and The Russian government attorney who is flying over from Moscow for this Thursday.
I believe you are aware of the meeting - and so wondered if 3pm or later on Thursday works for you?
I assume it would be at your office.
Best
Rob Goldstone

On 7 June 2016, at 17:16, Donald Trump Jr wrote:
How about 3 at our offices? Thanks rob appreciate you helping set it up.
D

Did you note where Goldstone wrote "Russian government attorney"?

It's gonna be pretty tough for Don T Jr. to claim he didn't know the Russian government was involved.

And your sources are (besides Breitbart) ?????
--

Bitter Clinger wrote:

der Teufel wrote:

mloamiller wrote:Based on the info above, I does seem obvious the Russian government was involved, but there is still an element of "so what?"

I think the issue here is that foreign governments and entities (companies, individuals) are not supposed to interfere in US elections. Candidates cannot accept contributions from foreign entities, nor should they accept other assistance. It comes down to meddling in our election process. That's the issue. A foreign government (Russia) attempted to interfere in a US election, and Donald Trump Jr. apparently was willing to go along with that. Such actions are not legal.

Sorry, total nonsense. The Russian lawyer was not a government rep. There was no attempt to interfere. FAKE NEWS.

The emails sent by Donald Trump Jr. say different. — http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40571914

mloamiller wrote:Based on the info above, I does seem obvious the Russian government was involved, but there is still an element of "so what?"

I think the issue here is that foreign governments and entities (companies, individuals) are not supposed to interfere in US elections. Candidates cannot accept contributions from foreign entities, nor should they accept other assistance. It comes down to meddling in our election process. That's the issue. A foreign government (Russia) attempted to interfere in a US election, and Donald Trump Jr. apparently was willing to go along with that. Such actions are not legal.

Appearances are important.

According to this article on the BBC web site — http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40571914
The email chain to/from Donald Trump Jr. included information stating:
On 3 June 2016, at 10:36, Rob Goldstone (publicist) wrote:

Emin (Agalarov, Azerbaijani businessman and singer-songwriter) just called and asked me to contact you with something very interesting.
The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras (Agalarov, Azerbaijani-Russian businessman and public figure) this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and be very useful to your father.
This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin.
What do you think is the best way to handle this information and would you be able to speak to Emin about it directly?
I can also send this info to your father via Rhona, but it is ultra sensitive so wanted to send to you first.
Best
Rob Goldstone

So it seems evident from the start that DT Jr should have been aware that the info was represented as coming directly from the Russian Gov't.

I'm not saying this was any worse than what the Dems and Hillary were doing, but it's not good.