I might be reading you wrong but if you are suggesting that hate crime laws could have stopped the Holocaust and/or will stop the next Government back Group A from committing Genocide on Government scapegoat Group B I think you are mistaken. Laws cannot protect anyone if those in charge refuse to enforce them or enforce them selectively. Once this occurs the only thing that can protect you is the Second Amendmentb322da wrote: With respect, I must suggest that many simply do not understand the essence of a hate crime.
A murder is no greater a crime when prompted by hate than is a casual random driveby shooting, with the victim being unknown to the killer, who does not know or consider the victim to be a member of a hated group. Those committing a hate crime are committing an offense against society, if not humanity, and if the state does not recognize the difference then this sickness can be realistically expected to grow and grow.
The Nazi government's approval of, if not the instigation of, Jewish repression by the general population beginning in the 30's, for example kristallnacht, led to the Holocaust, not the reverse, as implied by another's earlier post here.
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- Sun Aug 29, 2010 1:27 pm
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- Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:50 am
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Law are suppose to make us safer, by deterrence but hate crime laws do not do that. If the people committing these crimes were not deterred by existing laws against rape, murder and assault why would they be worried about the added penalies? Why not just roll those punishments into the existing laws against such crime and be done with it.b322da wrote:psijac wrote:
But when one's heart _____ a particular category of people, and that ______ful heart prompts him or her to commit violence against that _______ed person or his or her property - that is the crime.
jim
Replace the blank with any other human emotion
Love
Fear
Greed
Lust
envy
If we could Make illegal every human emotion then there would be no crime
- Sun Aug 29, 2010 12:14 am
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I don't think you can legislate basic human emotion. Hate, Love, Fear. The government can't make you embrace or abandon your heart or lack there of.
I know this video has a certain slant some may disagree with but I think it demonstrates my point
[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=wVeGUSGkhfw[/youtube]
I know this video has a certain slant some may disagree with but I think it demonstrates my point
[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=wVeGUSGkhfw[/youtube]