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by Boxerrider
Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:37 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Deputy Scot Peterson
Replies: 176
Views: 35502

Re: Deputy Scot Peterson

Rob72 wrote:An excellent read, that covers pretty much all variables in how these incidents erupt and evolve. Korem's theory is comprehensive, and does not rely on a given social/political/economic theory.

http://www.ifpinc.com/books/rage-of-the-random-actor/
Thanks, I'll read it!
by Boxerrider
Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:34 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Deputy Scot Peterson
Replies: 176
Views: 35502

Re: Deputy Scot Peterson

Ruark wrote:I worked for 15 years with state and federal school finance, and budgeting will be a core issue here. Many schools can barely afford to replace their light bulbs, much less pay a professional security guard $50,000 a year. And what about larger schools that are scattered out, with 10, 20 or more temporary classroom buildings? Stoneman Douglas covers 45 acres. That's as big as the University of Texas at Austin. What are they supposed to do, hire 40 armed security personnel, all of which will spend their time standing around waiting for a shooting that, statistically, will never happen? Even if you had them, would that stop a lunatic who is going to shoot himself anyway?

Of course, the Plan B is volunteers, but even then you run into logistical issues where multiple buildings are concerned, given that a shooter can kill 2 or 3 dozen kids in a matter of seconds.

The best answer might be to control access not to the school, but to the campus itself. Most schools already have tall fencing around them. So maybe an approach is to put in an entry gate, where only approved vehicles and/or personnel can enter. Non-approved persons (e.g. visiting parents, special guests, etc.) could step through a metal detector next to the gate. It would only require 1 or 2 personnel, and the whole thing could probably be contracted out by the school district.

I'm just thinking off the top of my head here, but from a budgeting and effectiveness standpoint, something like that is MUCH more feasible than having a platoon of armed guards wandering around all day.
While I do agree with you, Broward schools may not be the best example of poor schools. When the shooting started superintendent Runcie was presenting the teacher of the year with a new Toyota Camry.
The funding issue is one of the main reasons I feel this is a local issue, not a state one, and definitely not a federal one. Each local district assesses their level of risk, funding available, other resources . . . and implements a plan they feel is appropriate. Each district is also responsible for it's success.
by Boxerrider
Sun Feb 25, 2018 1:27 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Deputy Scot Peterson
Replies: 176
Views: 35502

Re: Deputy Scot Peterson

RoyGBiv wrote:
Oldgringo wrote:I still wonder why school doors are not locked between starting and stopping time with a single point of controlled entrance during the day? I'm pretty sure all exit doors have panic hardware in the event of fire, etc.
Unless you can get kids and staff to stop propping doors open because... lazy..
Unless you make all the glass impack/bullet resistant....
Unless you put up bollards/barriers to stop a car from driving through...

It's mostly just "inconvenience", not "security".

And... Unless you have people inside or nearby prepared to fight back, crazy people will keep killing.
Exactly - security is not a serious concern. It does not require great expense, it requires a new attitude. If the school administration and local law enforcement want secure campuses, then they can make it happen. This should not be a federal, or even state regulated issue. That only adds more bureaucratic complication to an already overly complicated system. More boxes to check, and more finger pointing when it fails to work.

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