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cyphertext wrote: ↑Fri Nov 09, 2018 3:33 pm

oljames3 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:38 pm

cyphertext wrote: ↑Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:32 pm

oljames3 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:47 pm

LucasMcCain wrote: ↑Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:24 pm I use my LTC as ID pretty much any time I can. It's good to let people know that the friendly, polite, normal person they are talking to is a progun person. The only way we can make good impressions for the progun community and try to challenge the narrative being pushed by the leftists is if people know who we are. Using your LTC for ID is a simple, common, non-confrontational way to do this.

This idea that "anyone who draws any attention to the fact that they carry a gun is just out for attention" is small-minded, and perpetuating it is damaging to our cause. If you don't feel comfortable with people knowing you carry, that's fine. You do you. However, shaming people for making a different decision because they actually care enough to put themselves out there a little to try to help the cause is wrong. They're doing what you won't to try to change hearts and minds and affect public perception.

As with most things in life, it comes down to which risks we are willing to manage and which benefits matter most to us. You do you, and I will continue to do me.

Be calm and carry.

"Once or twice I was asked if I had anything else. Responded "Yes, but the CHL/LTC is what you will use."... Is that how you show the person that you are a "friendly, polite, normal person"?

Yes, indeed, it is.

Guess our views differ... I see you being difficult for an election worker. Wouldn't say that is a great representation. Now, if you tried using the LTC and it wouldn't scan, but politely offered your driver's license afterwards, then I could see it more. But to tell them "Yes, but the CHL/LTC is what you will use" is just trying to put them in their place.

It really isn't much of an impact to present an non-scan ID. We had a passport and a military ID. Lookup, at least in Denton County, is quick and pretty easy. We spent a lot more time than that for more than 20% of the people who were at the wrong polling place. My belief is that if the ID type is on our list, we should accept it if that is what is presented. My job as an election worker is not to take the easiest path but to try to be as accommodating as possible. Others might approach the situation differently. I want to people to vote and want to do everything that I can to make that possible, assuming that they are eligible to vote.

ELB wrote: ↑Fri Nov 09, 2018 12:28 am

The Annoyed Man wrote: ↑Fri Nov 09, 2018 12:08 am How does one go about serving as an election clerk? Sounds interesting.

Couple ways. You can contact whoever administers elections in your county (either County Clerk or specially hired Elections Adminstrator), or contact your Party’s precinct committeeman or the county Party chairman.

If you google election administration for your county, you’ll probably find a web page for Election Administrator - I believe most Texas counties, at least the bigger ones, have gone to a full-time elections administrator and staff. The roles of election judge and election clerk are still partisan appointments tho.

That is true for Denton County as well. I know the election judge from my political activities. She needs to supply workers at the polling place where she is the judge. So she recruited me and another fellow from our local political club. One of the other workers is a precinct leader also. We had an alternate judge from the other party working our location, too. I prefer to have both parties represented so that there is no question about fairness. Everyone sees what is happening. It is a paid position.

TAM, it is a very interesting but a very grueling job. I had a number of situations which I will not detail in a public forum but one of them included getting the police involved. We had an officer stationed all day at our small polling place and I was very glad to have him there. I got to see a very interesting cross section of the population.

One of the interesting things for me was that I had also passed out "get out the vote" door hangers for the election judge. Her precinct is very spread out and it took hours even with my wife driving for me to get to all of the doors on my list. That list of voters was people with a specific party affiliation and who did not vote regularly in every election. I remember some of the addresses very well because they were hard to find. It was a lot of fun to check in voters and see those same addresses show up. I'd like to believe that I had a small part in encouraging them to get to the polls. It was some feeling of satisfaction after my having to do the door hanger distribution in the rain for part of the time.

03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:45 am Poll workers are people and can simply be mistaken. I bet she just did not know any better.

I served as an election clerk in Denton County on Tuesday. We were required to either attend training in person or take an on-line course which included chapter tests in order to serve. I took the on-line course and it covered (and tested) knowledge of the types of acceptable types of IDs. It is my understanding that not all counties use the same voting methods and that may include voter ID confirmation. Our machines do not scan LTCs either but they won't scan US Passports which can also be accepted. We are to use name lookup to verify the voter registration matches the ID presented and have to handle even small differences in how the name is recorded.

In the last run-off election, we had a number of voters present LTCs and did the manual lookups. I did not have any this cycle.

Not understanding valid ID types is only one of the possible problems which every election worker should be able to handle. The election judge should step in if there is a misunderstanding of voting requirements.