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by terryg
Wed May 15, 2013 10:23 am
Forum: 2013 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: Update: Support HB972 - debate tomorrow (5/14)
Replies: 82
Views: 8402

Re: Update: Support HB972 - debate tomorrow (5/14)

From our friends at Texas Gun Sense Facebook page:
Today, HB 972 (campus carry) passed out of the Senate Criminal Justice Committee on a 4-2 vote (Huffman, Carona, Patrick, Schwertner in favor; Whitmire and Rodriguez opposed; Hinojosa absent), despite overwhelming testimony from students, faculty, and Virginia Tech survivors. The bill would de-criminalize the carrying of firearms on college campuses in Texas, even for those universities that opt out.

Rumor has it that Governor Perry will add the bill to his special session call, putting it ahead of important issues like water and education funding.

In order to kill campus carry in a special session, we need sixteen Senate votes. We believe we have those sixteen votes. Our task now is to hold on to them. It is absolutely critical that you call your state senator every day. You can look him or her up here: http://www.fyi.legis.state.tx.us/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If you have time, please email john@gunfreeschools.org and volunteer to make some phone calls. We cannot beat this legislation without you.

Thank you so much for all of your hard work thus far.
by terryg
Tue May 14, 2013 4:24 pm
Forum: 2013 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: Update: Support HB972 - debate tomorrow (5/14)
Replies: 82
Views: 8402

Re: Update: Support HB972 - debate tomorrow (5/14)

Woot!! Thanks for the play by play.
by terryg
Mon May 13, 2013 9:47 pm
Forum: 2013 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: Update: Support HB972 - debate tomorrow (5/14)
Replies: 82
Views: 8402

Re: Update: Support HB972 - debate tomorrow (5/14)

Bump ... please call these senators ...
by terryg
Mon May 13, 2013 1:55 pm
Forum: 2013 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: Update: Support HB972 - debate tomorrow (5/14)
Replies: 82
Views: 8402

Re: Support HB972 - not a dud!

Testimony tomorrow?

According to our opposition there will be:
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If you haven't yet, please call senators now:

Members of Senate Committee on Criminal Justice:

Chair: John Whitmire (512) 463-0115
Vice-Chair: Joan Huffman (512) 463-0117

John Carona (512) 463-0116
Juan "Chuy" Hinojosa (512) 463-0120
Dan Patrick (512) 463-0107
José Rodríguez (512) 463-0129
Charles Schwertner (512) 463-0105
by terryg
Sat May 11, 2013 8:33 pm
Forum: 2013 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: Update: Support HB972 - debate tomorrow (5/14)
Replies: 82
Views: 8402

Re: Support HB972 - not a dud!

GEM-Texas wrote:
“The House bill allows public universities to opt out, and allows private schools to opt in, so the presidents of each campus can make the decision. That’s better than (state Sen. Brian) Birdwell’s bill that doesn’t allow that. “
IMHO - this will make the bill meaningless. The vast majority of schools will opt out. The discussions will be pro forma. Staff will not go against antigun administrations.

Also, future attempts to have carry in the future where an antigun president cannot decide for all will be blocked. The option program will be seen as 'reasonable'. The opposition to carry was unreasonable and that's why a legislative mandate was need to override administrations at colleges.

I might be wrong but I don't see this as much use given what I know of administrations.

I am not in favor of administrators decided my basic rights. It should be the realm of the legislative process.
It is not meaningless in that it is no-longer a felony if licensed student or employee chooses to carry despite a school's administrative policies. This puts University employees on the same playing field as nearly all other employees in the state of Texas. It becomes a personal choice whether to risk termination (or in cases of posted 30.06, misdemeanor charges) if discovered carrying.
by terryg
Thu May 09, 2013 8:06 pm
Forum: 2013 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: Update: Support HB972 - debate tomorrow (5/14)
Replies: 82
Views: 8402

Re: Support HB972 - not a dud!

Members of Senate Committee on Criminal Justice:

Chair: John Whitmire (512) 463-0115
Vice-Chair: Joan Huffman (512) 463-0117

John Carona (512) 463-0116
Juan "Chuy" Hinojosa (512) 463-0120
Dan Patrick (512) 463-0107
José Rodríguez (512) 463-0129
Charles Schwertner (512) 463-0105

Taken from: http://www.senate.state.tx.us/75r/senat ... 0/c590.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Is now the time to call and write?
by terryg
Thu May 09, 2013 7:03 pm
Forum: 2013 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: Update: Support HB972 - debate tomorrow (5/14)
Replies: 82
Views: 8402

Re: Support HB972 - not a dud!

Jaguar wrote:If this passes and makes it so carry is not against the law, yet against university policy, staff and students will be in the same boat as thousands, if not tens of thousands other Texans who work in places where company policy prohibits carry but the business is not posted 30.06 so anyone can walk in carrying.

Present company included. :tiphat:

It is better than being against the law IMHO.
:iagree: :iagree: This is it exactly.

And, I have only forgotten I was still armed when entering my office one time in 15+ years. I had stopped by the store on the way in and so entered the parking lot from a different direction. Somehow that threw my routine off and I forgot to lock it up. Anyway, for those few minuets until I got back to the car, I was committing a felony ... with this bill I would just be breaking company policy.
by terryg
Tue May 07, 2013 11:14 pm
Forum: 2013 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: Update: Support HB972 - debate tomorrow (5/14)
Replies: 82
Views: 8402

Update: Support HB972 - debate tomorrow (5/14)

Or at least not a complete dud.

This is mentioned in this thread. But given the significance of the discovery, I thought it warranted a new thread as a call to support.

Many have disparaged HB972 (including me) because the opt-out clause leaves it somewhat toothless. But it does do something significant in that it removes criminal penalties for those who would carry on campus. The opt-out provision allows the university to "adopt administrative rules and regulations". So a university employee carrying at work would risk termination but not criminal charges just like employees at other businesses. I suspect students similarly would risk expulsion.

baldeagle points out the 30.06 postings would still apply.

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