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by Liberty
Sat Nov 01, 2008 5:50 pm
Forum: Federal - 2008
Topic: Ron Paul not out of the race
Replies: 22
Views: 3798

Re: Ron Paul not out of the race

LarryH wrote:Just to clarify where the district line is not, we live in League City. Ron Paul is our congressman. We disagree with much that he stands for, too (not enough to vote for anybody the D's would put up against him), but the majority of the voters in our district obviously like him.
Memory recall is a funny thing. You are correct, in fact it looks like all of League city is in Ron Paul's district.

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by Liberty
Fri Oct 31, 2008 7:12 am
Forum: Federal - 2008
Topic: Ron Paul not out of the race
Replies: 22
Views: 3798

Re: Ron Paul not out of the race

seamusTX wrote:There used to be an NOAA facility on Fort Crockett Boulevard or Avenue U when Texas A & M used that property (which used to be federal property). I think NOAA moved out when Texas A & M transferred it to Galveston College. I still saw a lot of NAOO vehicles before Ike, and I assumed they were based on Pelican Island.

The NOAA office on the mainland is on FM 646 just north of I-45 in Dickinson. AFAICT, that is in the 14th district, but it's gerrymandered like crazy around there.

There are other federally funded projects on Galveston Island. UTMB, which is one of the top medical research in the world, gets some federal research funding. The level 4 biohazard lab there is a prime example. It would be nice to find a cure for hemorrhagic (Ebola, etc.) fever before it escapes Africa.

- Jim
I have heard the place referred to as being in Dickinson it is indeed still in League City. I think the district lines are the same as the Dickinson League city line. Original Idea was to actually build it in Galveston, but the League City site was chosen to give better coverage over habitated land areas.

There is a fact sheet on the Galveston NOAA site (a PDF) http://galveston.ssp.nmfs.gov/home/2006FactSheet.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
by Liberty
Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:03 pm
Forum: Federal - 2008
Topic: Ron Paul not out of the race
Replies: 22
Views: 3798

Re: Ron Paul not out of the race

seamusTX wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:... it is very difficult for me to take someone's declamations against pork barrel spending very seriously if the person making those declamations isn't above getting some of his own pork.
I'm reasonably confident that Dr. Paul would tell you that the funds that go to his district are not pork. Of course, every congressman and senator would say that.

I honestly don't see any of it as pork.

When the interstate was built, the Democrats controlled Congress and were doling out interstates as personal favors. So Galveston Island got one. It carries its maximum capacity at times, so I guess we need it. The causeway from the mainland to the island was old enough to be considered in dangerous condition, and now we're getting a replacement that cost more than $100 million.

The Coast Guard and Army Corps of Engineers are aspects of core functions of the federal government, national defense and promoting interstate and international commerce.

You could question whether NOAA should exist, but it does, and an island in the ocean is an obvious location for some of its facilities.

When I look at the range of politicians who are in the pocket of this or that lobby, who are hypocrites ("pro family" and divorced multiple times), and outright criminals, I have a lot more admiration for Dr. Paul.

I don't agree with him about everything, not by a long shot.

The bottom line is that he has been voted into office 10 times (IIRC), and it's difficult to find anyone to run against him.

- Jim

p.s.: I was obviously typing this while the previous two messages were posted.
I know that there is a NOAA facility in League City, and not in his district. This Facility was also built and funded While Jack Brook was in office.
Is there a facility in Galveston that I'm not aware of?

I looked it up and I found there is a fisheries Lab funded by NOAA and established in the 1920s, I would bet it works in collaberation with the Texas A&M Center. One can hardly accuse Ron Paul of pork funding for a facility founded in 1929.
by Liberty
Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:10 pm
Forum: Federal - 2008
Topic: Ron Paul not out of the race
Replies: 22
Views: 3798

Re: Ron Paul not out of the race

The Annoyed Man wrote:Please understand that I don't write this to slam him, but Ron Paul isn't ideologically pure either. He apparently has had a record in the past of voting against bills which are pork laden, when A) those bills are going to pass handily anyway; and B) when some of that pork is for his district. That way, he can claim ideological purity, and bring home the bacon at the same time. At least, that is what I've read. So if what I've read is true, then how did pork for Paul's district get onto the bill in the first place? Certainly John Murtha didn't put it there. And if Paul has actually done such a thing, then doesn't that make him appear a bit cynical about his own anti-pork stance? That sort of hypocrisy is what made me initially suspicious about him.

The other main thing that I haven't been able to swallow about Ron Paul was his refusal to return donations made by white supremacists. Now, I'm not dumb enough to believe that Ron Paul is himself a white supremacist. In fact, I'm fairly certain that he is not. However, he is willing to accept their money. In my view, that is dirty money. One of the big strikes against Obama is that his campaign has been less than fastidious in keeping their financial donation records. Also in my view, it is extremely difficult for any well-meaning politician to convince other people who haven't signed on yet to supporting him that his heart is in the right place when he accepts money from people whose hearts are definitely in the wrong place. It was unwise and ill-advised on Ron Paul's part to accept that money in the first place, and it was foolish and politically tone deaf for him to hang onto it once it became public knowledge. In my mind, a politician doesn't have to actually be a white supremacist in order to be tainted by failing to repudiate white supremacist money.

I could never vote for a politician who isn't wise enough to understand that distinction, and then do the right thing about it. But that's just me.

If those of you who are Paul's supporters can set me straight on those two issues, then I might be able to change my opinion of him as a crackpot, even if I can't agree with all of his policies.
I think of pork as grants for projects which have no national interest. When we build bridges that only serve local uninhabitated islands or art projects or other local projects thats pork.

Supporting Coast guard stations, Federal prisons and Federal navigable waterways isn't pork. You don't see pet projects in Galveston Brazoria that are just raw grants to benefit walthy supporters
by Liberty
Thu Oct 30, 2008 11:13 am
Forum: Federal - 2008
Topic: Ron Paul not out of the race
Replies: 22
Views: 3798

Re: Ron Paul not out of the race

anygunanywhere wrote:Ron Paul gets kicked around to an insane degree. Most of those kicking him do not even know his positions. The fact that he is running unopposed, to me, speaks volumes.

Anygunanywhere
His enemys seem to only be in the Republican party. He did run into some opposition in the primarys. There were lots of insiders complaining that he didn't play nice with his fellow Republicans in dishing out the pork. Fortunately his constituency likes him more than his fellow Republicans. He is the only friend in Congress that us Taxpayers in Texas have.

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