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sjfcontrol wrote:

Dave2 wrote:

sjfcontrol wrote:

GEM-Texas wrote:Unless, there is technical reason to ban carry - ex. - no guns by the MRI as they can drag you in or discharge by the magnetic field - the JOB KING-EMPEROR is an inappropriate model.

Really? I understand the magnetic field attracting the gun, but is there any evidence anywhere that they can cause a discharge? If so, what's the mechanism? Is the cartridge fired by the gun? Or is the primer somehow directly detonated by the field?

If the magnetism is as strong as what's portrayed on TV, maybe it could suck the gun out of its holster, straight to the side of the MRI machine, where it lands on its hammer with such force that the firing pin safety breaks and the gun goes off?

I guess you should only carry Glocks around MRI machines

I'd have to be one of those porcelain Glock-7's made in Germany, and that cost more than you make in a month!

seamusTX wrote:There is exactly one case of a pistol discharging because of the magnetic field of an MRI machine. It happened New York in the 1990s and has been discussed on "gun boards" for a decade.

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- Jim

sjfcontrol wrote:

GEM-Texas wrote:Unless, there is technical reason to ban carry - ex. - no guns by the MRI as they can drag you in or discharge by the magnetic field - the JOB KING-EMPEROR is an inappropriate model.

Really? I understand the magnetic field attracting the gun, but is there any evidence anywhere that they can cause a discharge? If so, what's the mechanism? Is the cartridge fired by the gun? Or is the primer somehow directly detonated by the field?

seamusTX wrote:

Dave2 wrote:How about including a copy of the <state> penal code at the end and a note saying "follow these"?

That's not good enough, either.

We can't agree on this forum about the meaning of individual words in the penal code. Neither can supreme court justices. Nobody really understands the whole thing.

The state penal code does not include everything that is potentially illegal. There's the Labor Code and Tax Code. If your company owns vehicles, you run into the Transportation Code. If it is in a regulated industry such as insurance, medicine, or alcoholic beverages, you have to deal with those codes.

Then there is federal law. If you do business overseas (which is more and more common these days) you have to deal with the laws of other countries and treaties like NAFTA that regulate international trade.

You can't hire either minimum-wage workers with limited education or specialized professionals and expect them to understand all that. You certainly would not want to pay them for the time it took to read all the codes.

- Jim

seamusTX wrote:

Dave2 wrote:Which is why I said "Don't do anything illegal on company time or property", and "you'd better have a really good explanation if you give someone a reason to sue us ..."

That's not sufficient. This isn't my idea. There is plenty of legal precedent for employers being held responsible for failing to properly train and manage employees.

seamusTX wrote:The problem with illegal actions or actions that result in lawsuits is that employees are considered "servants" of their employer, and the employer is responsible for nearly everything employees do in the course of their employment.