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by tomneal
Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:56 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion
Replies: 464
Views: 103181

Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion

How many young folks have you seen that left for college a conservative and returned a liberal?

It seems to be a reoccurring pattern.
by tomneal
Mon Dec 20, 2021 8:45 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion
Replies: 464
Views: 103181

Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion

Today's fun fact:
Greta Thunberg and Kyle Rittenhouse were born on the same day

https://www.unilad.co.uk/life/people-di ... ac-system/
by tomneal
Sat Nov 20, 2021 3:26 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion
Replies: 464
Views: 103181

Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion

Kurt Schlichter has an interesting take on updates to our Self Defense laws.

The entire article is worth a read. Schlichter also writes fiction and they are worth reading as well.

Here are some samples from Kurt's article.
Make the state disprove a self-defense claim at a special proceeding long before trial, then make the state disprove it again to a jury at trial.
Also, a person using force to defend himself against rioters must be presumed to use it lawfully.
The jury shall be instructed that unarmed individuals can pose a grave threat to armed individuals, and that a person attempting to take the weapon of the self-defender by force or threat of force shall be presumed to intend to use that weapon upon the self-defender." Try to take a piece? Better make your peace.
Let's also give the jury the full story and require that the entire criminal history of the target be revealed to the jury and that the jury be instructed that this history can be considered on the question of whether the self-defender was threatened.
And we just found out that the prosecutors in the Rittenhouse case were playing games with the evidence, substituting a hi-res version of a video for an unclear one that showed much less. We need a one strike rule for this kind of misconduct – if the DA cheats, the accused walks. Period. And not just in self-defense cases.
let's make the DA put some municipal skin in the game. Red legislatures must pass laws that ensure that not only does the locality have to pay all the defense costs of an acquitted accused, but the locality must pay his other damages, like lost wages and emotional distress. DAs, go ahead and charge him if you really believe it's not self-defense, but be prepared to put your money where your indictment is.
https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtsch ... 599239?180

Kurt did not include one of my pet peeves. There should be three possible verdicts: Guilty, Not Guilty, Innocent
In my opinion, Kyle Rittenhouse should have been found "Innocent".

On a side note. I saw photo's of the prosecutor pointing an AR at the jury. It didn't have sights. Did Kyle do all that Very Accurate shooting without sights?
by tomneal
Tue Nov 16, 2021 8:00 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion
Replies: 464
Views: 103181

Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion

First let me repeat:
If I thought there was going to be a gun fight, I just wouldn't go.

I think a part of this prosecution is to discourage regular folks, every where, from defending themselves.

I watched parts of the trial. The defense closing arguments were a good summary of the case. Including video. The only mistake I saw from KR was being at the wrong place at the wrong time and getting separated from his buddies. Every shot he took, was defending himself from great bodily harm or death.

Unlike the jurors in this trial,
I have never been in a bar fight.
by tomneal
Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:42 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion
Replies: 464
Views: 103181

Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion

I hope he will be safe while he awaits trial and that he gets a fair trial.
:iagree:

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