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by pt145ss
Wed Oct 27, 2010 7:33 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Carrying at the Post Office
Replies: 107
Views: 12751

Re: Carrying at the Post Office

I don't read it exactly that way. I don't think that the CFR can overrride the elements of the crime defined in the statute (18 USC 930), which defines "facility" as a building and not the property. So I don't think you could be convicted under 18 USC 930 for having a gun in the parking l...
by pt145ss
Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:51 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Carrying at the Post Office
Replies: 107
Views: 12751

Re: Carrying at the Post Office

I was fairly convinced at first that there was no way they could prevent carry in a parking lot given they are a "Federal Facility" especially given how they reference 18 USC 930. I'm glad you guys challenged me to research the codes for myself (the Ohio lawyer thing lost me a bit). After ...
by pt145ss
Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:40 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Carrying at the Post Office
Replies: 107
Views: 12751

Re: Carrying at the Post Office

I think the fact that 39 § 232 specifically addresses the postal service property is what would supercede the individual pieces of the overall code. Ok...Because 18 USC 930 does not specifically say "Post Office" and only referes to "Federal Facility" and Because 39 USC 410 say ...
by pt145ss
Tue Oct 26, 2010 2:54 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Carrying at the Post Office
Replies: 107
Views: 12751

Re: Carrying at the Post Office

I think the fact that 39 § 232 specifically addresses the postal service property is what would supercede the individual pieces of the overall code. Ok...Because 18 USC 930 does not specifically say "Post Office" and only referes to "Federal Facility" and Because 39 USC 410 say ...
by pt145ss
Tue Oct 26, 2010 2:04 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Carrying at the Post Office
Replies: 107
Views: 12751

Re: Carrying at the Post Office

Exactly my point Keith. So if you pull into the post office after work; leave your firearm in the vehicle; do your postal business; and leave, in my mind you are well within the spirit of the law, and probably the letter as well. Under that scenario there is no possible way that your vehicle could ...
by pt145ss
Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:57 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Carrying at the Post Office
Replies: 107
Views: 12751

Re: Carrying at the Post Office

hmmm....cant find 19 USC 930!!!!!!
by pt145ss
Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:16 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Carrying at the Post Office
Replies: 107
Views: 12751

Re: Carrying at the Post Office

I do not disagree Keith, but there comes a point where the what if's cloud the issue. I have never seen a post office parking lot which was gated, therefore it is public access. Would a vehicle turning around in the post office parking lot be subject to the Federal statutes? We can "what if&qu...
by pt145ss
Sat Oct 23, 2010 10:04 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Carrying at the Post Office
Replies: 107
Views: 12751

Re: Carrying at the Post Office

Abraham wrote:Post Offices have detectors?

I'm not disputing it, but when and where and why?

ours does, but i do not think they are metal detectors. I think they are the standard merchandise detection stuff as they have merchandise laying around.
by pt145ss
Sat Oct 23, 2010 8:56 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Carrying at the Post Office
Replies: 107
Views: 12751

Re: Carrying at the Post Office

My CHL instructor spent quite a bit of time on post offices and carrying this last weekend. he is currently an LEO for Harris County Sheriff's office and has been an LEO in Houston for 36 years. He said that there is almost always a set of double doors to access federal employees and you could safe...
by pt145ss
Sat Oct 23, 2010 7:52 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Carrying at the Post Office
Replies: 107
Views: 12751

Re: Carrying at the Post Office

The post office near us is split into two clearly defined areas. One area is the post office boxes and the self help machines. There are no detectors as you go into this area and no signs. The second area is the customer service area. As you walk through this area you must pass though the detectors ...
by pt145ss
Fri Oct 15, 2010 9:25 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Guns stored in a Car
Replies: 22
Views: 1941

Re: Guns stored in a Car

A weapon should be either under your immediate control or secured - there's no in-between in my mind. Anyone who leaves one lying around unsecured (hidden or not) where anyone else could stumble across it and pull the trigger can only blame themselves if something bad happens. Whether or not they c...
by pt145ss
Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:52 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Guns stored in a Car
Replies: 22
Views: 1941

Re: Guns stored in a Car

It is no different (personal opinion, not legal) than leaving a gun unsecured in your home to which one has access. Very similar. If you have a child at home then you're responsible if they get the gun on your nightstand. Same with your child's friends. But if a teenager commits burglary then they'...
by pt145ss
Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:30 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Carrying while Intoxicated
Replies: 36
Views: 4074

Re: Carrying while Intoxicated

I have dealt with drunk drivers for years. I now volunteer with DWI Tracker to help get them off the road. In my personal opinion if a person exercises his right to refuse a FST and breath test, the state of Texas should exercise it's right to permanently revoke your drivers license. WOW...just...W...
by pt145ss
Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:30 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Carrying while Intoxicated
Replies: 36
Views: 4074

Re: Carrying while Intoxicated

http://www.pittsburghcriminallawblog.com/dui/how-accurate-are-field-sobriety-tests/ How Accurate Are Field Sobriety Tests? Posted by Gerald B. McNamara on September 07, 2010 According to a 1991 study (PDF) by Dr. Spurgeon Cole at Clemson University, field sobriety tests give a police officer about ...
by pt145ss
Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:09 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Carrying while Intoxicated
Replies: 36
Views: 4074

Re: Carrying while Intoxicated

http://www.pittsburghcriminallawblog.com/dui/how-accurate-are-field-sobriety-tests/ How Accurate Are Field Sobriety Tests? Posted by Gerald B. McNamara on September 07, 2010 According to a 1991 study (PDF) by Dr. Spurgeon Cole at Clemson University, field sobriety tests give a police officer about ...

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