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by TheFriscoKid
Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:39 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: I want to keep my guns.
Replies: 139
Views: 29190

Re: I want to keep my guns.


Thought experiment:
You are stopped on the street by a CBS Reporter. He asks if you have any guns in the home.
Do you tell the truth?
You get a call from CNN. They ask if you are a gun owner.
What do you say?
A government employee drops by your house to ask how many guns you have.
What do you reply?
Apparently super owners have no problem answering any of those questions.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/201 ... /90858752/

We can argue over which way the deckchairs should face (rising household percentage or declining) but none of that is going to change the fact that the ship is sinking.

Is everyone here a 'cold dead hands' advocate ?
by TheFriscoKid
Mon Feb 19, 2018 7:20 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: I want to keep my guns.
Replies: 139
Views: 29190

Re: I want to keep my guns.

Lucas - the problem is none of these are 'outliers' anymore. It's not just one more school shooting, it's all of it. The suicides, the mass shootings, the schools, the malls the c&w festivals.... all of them. It's the tide.

I am arguing for the idea that we need to find a way to keep what we have before we lose it all.

Nothing may be your response today and nothing may be your reward tomorrow.
by TheFriscoKid
Mon Feb 19, 2018 7:07 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: I want to keep my guns.
Replies: 139
Views: 29190

Re: I want to keep my guns.

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by TheFriscoKid
Mon Feb 19, 2018 3:26 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: I want to keep my guns.
Replies: 139
Views: 29190

Re: I want to keep my guns.

My social media is a blaze with ban the AR15, end the second amendment, kick the GOP out in November.

The GOP needs to get a head of this with their own bill. Now.
I don't like being bull headed but with 50 years of shooting and politics - I really sense the tide is turning this time. The numbers don't add up for us. Sure there is more than 1 gun per American, I have 6. But the rate of gun ownership is going down.

Some people here live in a bit of a vacuum - only watching Fox, only hanging out with like minded folks in life and on the internet but if you wet your thumb and stick it out you'll see the times are a changing.

Phillips is right - GOP needs to get ahead. You may not like what they do but you'll really hate what the other side may push for. If you don't see that yet - start looking around outside of your comfort zone. And if you aren't stocked up already start shopping. I know I am. And I've never panicked shopped before - not once but this time is different.
by TheFriscoKid
Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:17 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: I want to keep my guns.
Replies: 139
Views: 29190

Re: I want to keep my guns.

flechero wrote:
TheFriscoKid wrote:

Sorry for the long winded response.
:tiphat:
It's a good response. I am here to learn from others.
Glad to hear that. and I hope my post didn't come across as personal towards you because it wasn't meant specifically to you. I wrote "you" at one point and should have put "they." I've edited that.
After a night to think about it, I still agree that your response and commitment are commendable. At the same time though I began to think about some of the other issues. While a solution like yours makes school shootings less likely or less damaging, several new issues come to mind.

As noted in another thread - advocates and volunteers come from across the spectrum. Can enough high proficiency volunteers be found and in lacking that ability will we be willing to let in less than 100% qualified individuals to do these tasks?

Appx 100,000 schools in the US. 4-5 guards per shift - 1 shift per week, night activities - games etc 2-3 a week ends up being 40 per school to cover most well attended 'events' - that's 4 million volunteers and when we start looking at lost GDP and/or costs - it's not a realistic plan.

Besides it only covers one aspect of the problem. We still have mentally ill with weapons and many other target rich environments - malls, churches, political rallies, sporting events, colleges, unis and trade schools aren't in that number.

This also does nothing to stop suicides, and domestic violence and other gun events precipitated by 'mental health decline'.
by TheFriscoKid
Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:06 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: I want to keep my guns.
Replies: 139
Views: 29190

Re: I want to keep my guns.

philip964 wrote:18 years old for bolt action rifle or 2 barrel shotgun.

21 years old for semi automatic handgun, pump shotgun

25 years old semi automatic rifle, automatic shotgun

No bump stocks or other rapid fire devices

50 state plus D.C. CHL license.

No off limits for CHL, except NFL stadiums, and businesses who post.

An idea like this also occurred to me but I haven't yet found any statistics on the avg age of mass shooters.

I also should try to find stats on avg age of all shooters.

I don't think age alone can be a gating factor. I know that a younger version of me was more prone to anger and emotional decisions. I trust myself much more now to stay level headed.
by TheFriscoKid
Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:09 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: I want to keep my guns.
Replies: 139
Views: 29190

Re: I want to keep my guns.

Slightly off topic but apparently the school money is already there but is being mis-allocated.

In one PowerPoint slide, Whitley noted that for the last 10 years, the state’s share of local school financing has decreased by almost the same amount lawmakers deposited into their now-$10 billion “rainy day fund” piggybank.

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http://www.star-telegram.com/opinion/op ... 23554.html
by TheFriscoKid
Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:55 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: I want to keep my guns.
Replies: 139
Views: 29190

Re: I want to keep my guns.


Sorry for the long winded response.
:tiphat:
It's a good response. I am here to learn from others.
by TheFriscoKid
Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:21 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: I want to keep my guns.
Replies: 139
Views: 29190

Re: I want to keep my guns.

An untended consequence I see is gun owners being unwilling to seek help for mental issues out of fear of losing their rights. And I can't say I blame them.
There is a lot of leeway here for someone to get help - "I don't like my boss" "I am depressed" "I don't have the same sex drive as when I was 18" etc.

Absent any malicious thought "I want to kill my boss" "myself" "a hooker in a bathtub" then there is no reason to take your guns while getting mental health treatment.

Start looking at the other side's POV and you'll begin to see the tide is turning.

We are living in the 'definition of insanity' territory now because what we are doing isn't working. It's time to try some new ideas in order to preserve our rights.
by TheFriscoKid
Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:11 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: I want to keep my guns.
Replies: 139
Views: 29190

Re: I want to keep my guns.

If you're sane and not threatening anyone then you would have nothing to worry about.

I am a lifelong shooter with a Texas CHL.

I am starting to see that if we don't make some compromises of our choosing we will find ourselves compromised in ways we don't want and wouldn't choose.
by TheFriscoKid
Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:00 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: I want to keep my guns.
Replies: 139
Views: 29190

I want to keep my guns.

I also want to see an end to mass shootings, school massacres and suicides.

What is the common thread? Declining mental health.

I don't think we have a gun problem but a mental health problem.

Anyone that makes a verified* threat towards another human, (including themselves), a school, a workplace, society at large, etc. should have their weapons taken away and undergo mandatory court ordered treatment.

When they are of 'sound mind' they can have their weapons returned. This won't be a 100% effective program but it will help to reduce the number of shootings and deaths we experience each year.

I want to keep my guns. I want my son to have the same rights I have for his entire life, but I want him to be safe while at a school, a shopping mall, a theater, etc until he is old enough to be a responsible gun owner.

We will need to spend money on mental health as a nation but it may solve our root problem and pay for itself. Most studies show a range of 4-1 to 7-1 ROI on mental health expenditures.

* verified = documented, witnessed and sworn to, and/or admitted

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